Q: I work on a college campus and see black students standing around talking loudly/yelling at each other and at people that are walking by them. I have also noticed this in office settings and when it is totally inappropriate. Like in a movie theatre.My question is why are black people so loud when they are in groups of any size? And do they realize that it frightens some people?
A: So you think black people are loud? WHAT IN THE HELL DO YOU MEAN, FOOL!? My people did NOT sing "We Shall Overcome" and "Lift Every Voice and Sing" to NOT be able to talk at whatever decibel they like... Hell... we need to be able to shout at the top of our lungs anytime we feel just as every human being should be able to.
We can't ALL talk like Samuel L. Jackson? Want us to speak with the calmness of Denzel? You do realize that Ralph Kramden (played by Jackie Gleason) was a loud talker too, right? You might be wondering who Ralph Kramden is. He's the lead character in the old show, The Honeymooners, (and a time when blacks were RARELY seen on TV) who talked loudly and promoted domestic violence when he said, "One of these days, Alice. One of these days... POW! right in the kisser!" These folks were always yelling at each other. Did he learn this way of communication from a black man or did we, the black folks of America, learn it from them?
But why do groups of young black folks, of any size, talk loudly on a college campus? Simply - because they can. It's the same reason why you can wear New Balance sneakers and North Face jackets while drinking a Chai Latte on a crisp autumn day with friends. Because YOU can! You mentioned that they sometimes yell at each other. With black folks, it's like family anytime you come across another who looks like you - you get excited, have fun and are relaxed with your family... you get loud, laugh loud, and so forth. When they're yelling/talking loudly at people passing by - I guess it depends on the context because I've been yelled at by white men and it didn't frighten me. What it made me think - using my internal dialogue, "What the fuck is wrong with him - does he KNOW who I am? Jesse Jackson told me that I AM SOMEBODY! (oh.. and this link if WORTH checking out) and I will whip his ass if he doesn't watch himself!" I probably learned that set of dialogue from watching ROOTS - you know that's how Massa talked to his property and it's the 21st Century, dammit! It's time to flip the script! But even with that internal dialogue - I remember what happened to Ol' Miss Sophia in The Color Purple when she "sassed a white woman" and uttered these famous words, "Hell naw". Now, I'll admit, a group of white guys with shaved heads wearing all black and having a chain attached to their pants scares the shit out of me. Why in the hell are you wearing a chain and isn't it too damn hot for all that black clothing? That CAN'T be good. Same thing can be said when it comes to groups of folks wearing pointy white hats that don't say "Dunce" on it. How about this for real fear? Let's venture into traveling. I've driven across the United States twice and I have to say, there are states I'm more fearful in than others. There are cities that I have never stopped in because it wasn't a major city - so if I needed to do #2 I held that shit (literally) until I reached what I felt was a safe destination. There have also been times when I would NOT get out of the car because I know I was the EXTRAORDINARY man of color in that town. It's kind of unsettling. I imagine that white folks don't really think anything of it and if they do, they relate the feeling to something similar to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre - but homeboy wasn't wanting to hurt those folks because they were white!
When it comes to office etiquette, there seems to be an unspoken code of conduct. When white folks are in an office and they're talking about someone negatively or discussing "their business" - they tend to whisper. Sometimes it goes like this, "I heard that so and so is (whisper) gay.." or, "Did you know that she (whisper) slept with so and so?" Black folks generally will speak the truth out in the open, get loud and laugh about it. If it's about you, they'll most likely let you know - we get BOLD sometimes. If you want this loud-talking behavior to stop, you need to learn to not be afraid to communicate with black folks and teach them the code of conduct. Don't act like that's just how black folks are, loud and jovial. Most humans can and a lot of times be, loud and jovial - unless they're some goth kid with an iPod listening to EMO music, mulling over the meaning of life and how it's just not fair that they have to take algebra and why their mom likes to wear pastel colored velour track suits to the mall. For the vast majority of students in general they don't have any home training to teach them that code of conduct. Many just don't know how to act because their parents/guardians don't know how to act. It takes a village to raise a child - and just because I said village doesn't mean you had to have lived in a hut in a third world country to know the concept - Hillary Clinton wrote a book on it and made a LOT of money. With that said - each one, reach one unless you're too frightened to approach one. If that's the case, you should just get over it, look at the "Man in the Mirror" and make that change!
Come to think of it, white folks do a lot of shouting themselves. Give them some alcohol and it's a natural amplifier of sound and stupidity. It's not unusual to get the random "YEAH, man!" or "Kick ass!" or even "Fuck, yeaaah!" You can be at a bar, a restaurant with a bar, or a bar in someone's house, or a tailgate with a "bar" so that they may get FU-BARed. But see, it's okay for white folks to do that because they're all around a bunch of other people doing the exact same thing they are - and if they aren't getting drunk, then something is OBVIOUSLY wrong with them and they try to coerce them into into drinking by telling them to "relax", have "a little fun" and to "live a little".
But why do groups of young black folks, of any size, talk loudly on a college campus? Simply - because they can. It's the same reason why you can wear New Balance sneakers and North Face jackets while drinking a Chai Latte on a crisp autumn day with friends. Because YOU can! You mentioned that they sometimes yell at each other. With black folks, it's like family anytime you come across another who looks like you - you get excited, have fun and are relaxed with your family... you get loud, laugh loud, and so forth. When they're yelling/talking loudly at people passing by - I guess it depends on the context because I've been yelled at by white men and it didn't frighten me. What it made me think - using my internal dialogue, "What the fuck is wrong with him - does he KNOW who I am? Jesse Jackson told me that I AM SOMEBODY! (oh.. and this link if WORTH checking out) and I will whip his ass if he doesn't watch himself!" I probably learned that set of dialogue from watching ROOTS - you know that's how Massa talked to his property and it's the 21st Century, dammit! It's time to flip the script! But even with that internal dialogue - I remember what happened to Ol' Miss Sophia in The Color Purple when she "sassed a white woman" and uttered these famous words, "Hell naw". Now, I'll admit, a group of white guys with shaved heads wearing all black and having a chain attached to their pants scares the shit out of me. Why in the hell are you wearing a chain and isn't it too damn hot for all that black clothing? That CAN'T be good. Same thing can be said when it comes to groups of folks wearing pointy white hats that don't say "Dunce" on it. How about this for real fear? Let's venture into traveling. I've driven across the United States twice and I have to say, there are states I'm more fearful in than others. There are cities that I have never stopped in because it wasn't a major city - so if I needed to do #2 I held that shit (literally) until I reached what I felt was a safe destination. There have also been times when I would NOT get out of the car because I know I was the EXTRAORDINARY man of color in that town. It's kind of unsettling. I imagine that white folks don't really think anything of it and if they do, they relate the feeling to something similar to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre - but homeboy wasn't wanting to hurt those folks because they were white!
When it comes to office etiquette, there seems to be an unspoken code of conduct. When white folks are in an office and they're talking about someone negatively or discussing "their business" - they tend to whisper. Sometimes it goes like this, "I heard that so and so is (whisper) gay.." or, "Did you know that she (whisper) slept with so and so?" Black folks generally will speak the truth out in the open, get loud and laugh about it. If it's about you, they'll most likely let you know - we get BOLD sometimes. If you want this loud-talking behavior to stop, you need to learn to not be afraid to communicate with black folks and teach them the code of conduct. Don't act like that's just how black folks are, loud and jovial. Most humans can and a lot of times be, loud and jovial - unless they're some goth kid with an iPod listening to EMO music, mulling over the meaning of life and how it's just not fair that they have to take algebra and why their mom likes to wear pastel colored velour track suits to the mall. For the vast majority of students in general they don't have any home training to teach them that code of conduct. Many just don't know how to act because their parents/guardians don't know how to act. It takes a village to raise a child - and just because I said village doesn't mean you had to have lived in a hut in a third world country to know the concept - Hillary Clinton wrote a book on it and made a LOT of money. With that said - each one, reach one unless you're too frightened to approach one. If that's the case, you should just get over it, look at the "Man in the Mirror" and make that change!
I do agree with you about the movies I can't stand when people talk to the screen either. In a theatre predominantly filled with blacks... you get the "shout outs" to the screen. Now, if commentary during the movie is what you like.. then more power to you. Let me direct you to a theater in Washington, D.C. where my Iron Man movie was both great (because I loved the movie) and annoying (I had the black version of "At the Movies with Ebert and Roper") because behind me two folks were giving commentary like, "God Damn that's a fly ass suit!" and "Look at that ride - that's dope! I want one of dem." and "He's about to kick his ass!" Then there was my experience at a Magic Johnson Theatre at "The Boulevard" shopping center. I saw Sex and the City and I remember a woman yelling out, "Don't do it girl!" Now, I ask, do you REALLY think Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte and Samantha are listening to you?
With all of that said, here is the synopsis - most black people like to talk loud, laugh loud, etc because that's what they've been raised around - loud, jovial, energetic, charismatic families (for the most part). Visit a predominately black church and you'll find that the preacher gets all into the sermon and starts to yell himself! Let me remind you white preachers like to shout too! Jimmy Swaggart? Michael Pfleger? Paula White? This is not something dedicated to folks of a darker skin and hair texture. But I digress... If talking loudly happens at a time that is inappropriate - follow your code of conduct, pull these students to the side, whisper and let them know your expectations. If it's not your office, let someone in that office know - but don't be an ass about it. #1 they're students who WANT to be professionals. They'll understand what's up. #2 you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. If you're outside and you're casually walking by a group of students, gripping your keys/bag/purse tightly - KEEP IT MOVIN'! (that's what I do when I see those goth kids!) If they're talking about you (and I would bet that 9 times out of 10 they're not - unless you're wearing some whack ass outfit), what exactly do you plan to do? Nothing! That's what.
Lastly, I'd like you to also consider that the loud talking might be a result from having music that's playing in our headphones, car, or elsewhere. The music may be so damn loud that we can't even hear ourselves unless we're yelling . I suspect some white folks might have that problem, too - caused by a good Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Motley Crue, gangsta rap, "pour some sugar on me and make love in an elevator while I visit Dr. Feelgood, screaming along the way, "fuck the police" to the cop cars I see on the way to the clinic" track. To you I say, "Fuck yeah, man - Rock out with your c*ck out!"
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I hear what you're saying, and of course not all blacks talk in movies and not all whites are quiet.. Thing is, black people when they are loud in a movie are generally more over the top, straight upu phone conversations and all.. and.. i feel if I confront a black man or woman who is loud that i have a much larger chance of them wanting to fight with me about it. I'm a white guy, but don't you dare call me racist. Nothing gives anyone the right to be loud in inappropriate settings, it's rude. I have to say it is, in my experience more of a black issue than a white one, but white teenager girls are pretty close doing the same thing.. I know I am not going to get into a fight if I shush them though. It ain't racist to admit that some generalizations have basis in reality. Shoot, I like Obama and I wanna marry Nia Long..I just finished watching big mommas house.. I like some black people and i don't like some others, same as with any other group. I'm glad i'm white, I know there is still some struggle for blacks, but the movie stuff has some truth to it, and it's not cool. My people were slaves in Africa for 400 years long before blacks were slaves.. I dont think it gives me the right to have a chip on my shoulder. If that confuses you, i'm jewish, the jews were slaves to the egyptians.
I have to agree with Greg here. A lot of my friends are african american, and I have bluntly asked the about the perception that 'black' people are 'loud', be it from ordinary conversations between two people to playing the bass heavy music coming from cars going down the street, and the common reply, and usually with a shrug of the shoulders is: "It's just the way we are". In reference to Greg's post here,I have to agree with him like he said, it's not a matter of what race you are, but JUST BEING PLAIN CONSIDERATE. Just because the freedom to speak as loud as one can or play your music in a public setting exists doesn't mean that you should do so, it's just being 'mindful of others, and being considerate to everybody else. That's all. To be fair, I know a lot of people who are not black and can be annoyingly loud at times. All it comes down to is the individual person him or herself. But in my experience, it's usually a 'black' person that is the loud one.
I have the right to rip ass in public, but I don't. I have the right to walk around being racist in public, but I don't. I have the right to spit my gum on a heavy trafficked sidewalk, but I don't. The answer is not because they can, that's a lame excuse to do something. I came across this article because, as I type, I am distracted by a group of black students in the student union of my school. It's otherwise very quite and almost empty, yet they are still yelling at each other while I am obviously studying. I don't expect them to be silent, this isn't a library, but at the same time, I'd think that if they saw a table full of books and an open computer that they'd tone it down a bit. I would.
White folks also have the freedom to speak as loudly as they want in public, yet they refrain. As do most other elasticities. There has to be another reason for this.
I agree with all other commentators. I wish I didn't have to. But after my experiences in high school, college and workplace cafeterias, the subway, movie theaters, having lived in a building with all types of ethnicities in Brooklyn, I'm afraid to say that it's true: African Americans have a higher tendency to be loud. And yes, I do find it annoying, but that doesn't make me a racist.
As for the alcohol theory: Are you meaning to say that it takes alcohol for a Caucasian to be as loud and obnoxious as an African American?
Well were all loud! Go anywhere and at anytime and you will see us yelling, screaming and laughing with no care to anyone else. Thats jus how we roll.
Blacks are loud because every thought that comes into their heads comes out their mouths. They lack the complexity of brain function that is requisite to engage in quiet reflection. In this way, they are like small children, even as adults.
this guy sounds like your typical loud blk guy for some reason ... just shut it when u see ppl studying
Blacks are indeed louder. They are ** intentionally ** louder. It's their way of saying "yo, man, f**k yo culture!". It's the "audible equivalent" of a sideways ballcap. I can remember many occasions in some restaurant when some black people (dangerous 'thug' types) were making a bunch of noise and everyone else is just asking themselves when they're going to pull out their illegally acquired pistols and "pop a cap in some cracker's ass" (you get the picture).
Oh, so if I, a white male and soon to be a minority, feel so inclined I can act like a damn fool and yell at the top of my lungs? My culture heritage (Anglo Saxon) gives me the right to be obnoxious? That's what you're saying. That because you (not you, your ancestors) have been "put down", that gives you AND your progeny to behave like prison inmates, sagging, dragging, shuffling and holding their junk. It's not that you have a different pigmentation that whites don't like some blacks, it's the fucked up, in your face, sense of entitlement.
I've noticed this as well, and it really is a shame. If urban blacks want respect, and not just tolerance, from society they need to act in a civil and considerate way. That means talking with "your indoor voice"; something I learned from a very young age.
I believe "Honeymooners" was loud because they were in front of a live audience and microphones were not in use yet. Not because they were the first or only "white people" to yell.Also it was a "tv" show not real life.lol
okay its a culture thing. I mean if you look at the African culture its bold and loud. You might see loud as being obnoxious or just inconsiderate because thats your culture but they see it as this is me. Its just one of the many culture differences thats like a long time ago Europeans looked at Africans like they were savages because of the little clothing they wore and tribal dances but its just a culture difference because in Africa its hot as hell so the woman weren't fully clothed like Europeans because in Europe its cold. Hope that answers your question and I'm black and I dont think its a racist questions you curious nothing wrong with that. People get definitions fucked up racist is when you believe your race is superior not one time in your comment you believed your race was superior to another
WTF?CAUSE THERE LIPS ARE BIGGER THAN THERE FACEE!?
From my experience, blacks do talk quote loud, and "It's my culture" isn't a damn excuse. Learn some respect for the other human races that inhabit this world.
That goes for ALL races, but applies mostly to blacks, because they are the ones constantly screaming and yelling.
Oh...funny how gangsta rap, which promotes mindless killing, violence, and anarchy, is primarily sung by and listened to black people.
Obnoxious and a clear indication of entitlement and ignorance. Just because "that's the way we are" is used as an excuse doesn't explain or justify it. I see it as another case of more "in yo face whitey" BS. Given the fact that most white people work just as hard or harder than the "oppressed" black people, white people should be much louder and obnoxious than black people just for general reasons. It's more "gimme my free stuff whitey" attitude. In this case it's notice me whitey, I don't care about you or your comfort.
i am currently in college, living in a dorm. unfortunately however, this "college experience" has been almost ruined by my surrounding suite mates. let me explain-- the room across from me-2 wanna be thugs which of course are black, in which yell IN A DORM ROOM which is tiny as hell! BLARE tv and mostly video games. and even more annoying is the stupidity of their conversations, which again are being yelled. these conversations consist of every other work, sometimes more, being a cuss word with "nigga" thrown in a couple times every sentence. most of the time i cant even understand the conversations besides these words, yet when i can they make absolutely no sense. and listen, you already get your BS free money from the governent to go to school just because youre black. which buys all these stupid ass crown vic's with rims and body lifts. but anyways. i think i might have met four of these black people that actually work here in this town i go to school at. ANNDNDDmy other neighbor is a fat black gay guy, which likes to sing(he cant) and stay on the phone at the most inconvenient times laughing loud as possible and sayin shit likt "ya girl" and "nu uh he didnt".
i know there parents dont raise them to have respect for anyone but by the time youre in college, LEARN SOME!!! and youre suppose to be halfway intelligent in college--speak halfway normal!all in all, most of em are just inconsiderate pieces of shit. end of story. maybe we all need to study up on some marcus garvey theories!!!! im in for it. oh! and for whoever said its their culture.. blah blah.. they had little clothes and danced and sang loud songs or whatever. no! thats not these black folks cultue cuz most black americans have never seen africa or met anyone from there.
There are times/places for loud talk/laughter...like in your own house, at a family reunion, at a club, private gatherings, etc and etc. Guess what? White folks act the same way, too.....in those environments. But when they are out in public(movies, restaurant....etc), those actions are put aside or cease. Why? Because they have respect and consideration for people around them.
Like some of the people here, I don't agreed with "This is our culture" thing at all. Please don't tell me having a straight up cellphone conversation when the movie is playing, is considered "This is our culture". Cause if it is, it's totally unacceptable and these people will lose the right to go to movie theater...ever again. So don't blame it on culture. It will only smear mud on what the black culture is suppose to be. In case blacks are wondering what my definition of your culture is, I'm talking about your style, music, heritage, food, history....the list goes on. So just admit that there are good portion of black people which are ......(drum roll) "inconsiderate" to other people, and that you(blacks) have no explanation for it other than what I had mention. Obnoxious and inconsiderate (if you didn't catch it the first time)!
Note: To be fair, I like to point out that when I say obnoxious blacks, I'm pointing "heavily" on the younger age bracket.
Well I would just like to say that it seems almost every commenter on here is pretty much racist. I find this whole topic laughable. You categorize all black people together, you do not even say African-Americans. If any of you, with the possible exception of Aquariangirl08 and the author of the blog, would happen to leave your precious America and go anywhere else in the world you would notice that actually WHITE people tend to be loud and obnoxious. I am from the Caribbean, specifically the island of Barbados, and here the whites, children AND adults, are louder and more disorderly than any black person I have yet to see. Just because this is the internet doesn't mean it's a pass to be ignorant and racist. ACT LIKE TA GOT SOME SENSE!
I too, have noticed that it is always black people being loud in inappropriate settings. The fourth floor of my college library is the quiet, study floor and there are always black students talking loudly in it and walking through it on their cell-phones. It's so rude! I get migraines due to a car accident and have to leave when thy do this because I feel like they will try to fight me instead of saying sorry. There is a time to be loud and have fun and there is a time to be quiet and considerate. I think it is an I don't give a crap attitude. It is not all black people. I know a great many of them who are kind and considerate. Entitlement? probably. I have news for you.I am a 3rd generation Italian immigrant ever heard of NINA? (no Irish/Italian need apply) We were oppressed to, yet I am considerate in public. No excuses. I work my way through school and so does my husband (He has 4 jobs) and expect it to be quiet when I am on the study floor. The government doesn't pay for me to go to school.
Sadly, I came across this link to see how many people have questioned this phenomena. I'm tired of sitting at the LIBRARY... yes people, the library, where it's nearly ALWAYS a group of black people who are loud when others in their visual vicinity are studying. This is downright obnoxious and inconsiderate. You can be loud, happy, jovial, and whatever else all you want somewhere else, like your home, or some place where you're not completely distracting others. It's not about having the freedom to do whatever the hell you can, like others have stated, people have the freedom to do a lot of obnoxious things, but most people don't... out of consideration and care for others. At a library if I want to talk with a group, and I notice I'm around people studying, I will leave that area and go somewhere where I won't disturb others. Unfortunately, it seems much of the black culture doesn't seem to realize this. I'm not being racist or discriminating, but this is a plain and simple trend I have seen. Not all blacks are quiet, and people from other races are loud. There is no reason to point this out. We are all intelligent enough to determine that. The point is, a VAST majority of the time, it's a group of black people. It's especially frustrating when you're trying to study. The one time my friend actually asked a group to be quiet, it caused a lot of conflict and anger from the other person. Not all would give this reaction, but most people don't like confrontation, and in a library this scenario shouldn't even exist. But it does. All too often. You can take pride in your culture and feel at home when your with people from your fellow culture, but seriously... observe your surroundings and exercise your intelligence about whether it's appropriate or not to be loud.
More PC crap that we all know is bullshit. They are loud, they are annoying, and everyone knows it. And its not just white people that think it; it's EVERY other ethnic group on the planet, as well as most Black people over age 50.
It's interesting that all the really successful (PhD holding, ivy-league educated) black men I know are quite soft spoken.
Silly wack people. So bold in their ignorance.
On the issue of slavery. I understand that it was not stated that the jews were the first slaves, i would just like to note that the term slave comes from the eastern european word "slav". Slavery was practiced by europeans and africans well before the 1500's. Also the Egyptians didnt practice slavery. Which ever peoples they conquered would become prisoners whom they made work for them. This by definition is not slavery. I will admit that slavery in itself is a horrible act, but the treatment of prisoners of war has been atrocious through out human history. Sorry to get so technical.
"I mean if you look at the African culture its bold and loud."
In fact, that's often not the case. Many African immigrants who have come to the United States are, in fact, often very quiet. I've been occasionally asked by some of the Nigerians and Zimbabweians at my university why African-Americans are so loud and so obnoxious, and why they spend so much of their time talking about racism. African tribes are known for bringing volume into their music, but not into their everyday interactions, when being so loud is considered disrespectful.
The title of this blog is "Just Because I'm Black." I'd encourage you to make an even greater effort to live up to your word, and not try to speak for other African-Americans or Africans.
I'd also recommend you try reading the book "White Guilt" by Shelby Steele.
First, let me state that this blog is written as comedy. It's definitely strange that so many people have found this particular topic and took it to be so many other things than what it is meant to be. That's how it goes in the world of blogging.
The caption at the top even says it's from the perspective of the writer. Not that it's the perspective of EVERYONE who is a member of a specific group or subgroup.
It's all from experiences. Each person's experience being different but this being MY experience. I put humor into it because it's not supposed to be taken so seriously.
Ive published practically every comment that was submitted with a handful of exceptions - because they were so foul and malicious.
At any rate - I just wanted to express that. LOL I wrote this entry so long ago and to see comments still come through and that I have over 17,000 visitors is a big, "wow".
Keep calm and carry on.
The person who wrote this article demonstrates that some people are ignorant to the annoyances they release on the surrounding world. This person is clearly an idiot, thinking that the world revolves around them, with a "I will do whatever the fuck I want because I can" attitude.
Okay...I think we all know that there can be both loud African Americans and loud Caucasians as well as every other race. But you have to be oblivious to the surrounding world if you don't realize that most of the noise is from African Americans. I have no idea why that is. I think they know they are loud, but they don't care, which sucks for the rest of us.
It's true, blacks are loud, that's a fact, deal with it!
"Deal with it"?
I may be able to deal with it sometimes, but dear lord, it happens ALL THE TIME!!
Now, I can most certainly overlook when they see one of their friends across the street and start yelling, but the strange thing is, they KEEP ON YELLING at the same decibel level even when their friend has come across the street and is right next to them.
At my dorm, black people are constantly blasting rap music late at night, so, me and some friends put the money together to buy some awesome speakers. We took turns and blasted instrumental/classical music. Amazingly, they came to us and apologized and promised to keep the volume down.
So maybe its just that they have to be shown how annoying it really is.
And I must commend the author on posting all the replies that he has. It shows a very objective thingy-ma-something. :D
Now Dennis, my question to you is, why is "It's my culture" a reasonable excuse for universally qualified rude behavior?
Black people are loud because they can be? That was a retarded statement, you've got to be stupid man. Black people can also be quite because they can but they aren't. I'm not even going to say anything more then your retarded.
See ya later dumbass.
I truly do NOT understand why the black community thinks they are "owed" anything. My hispanic community doesn't walk around acting like dicks and thinking "everyone owes us" and we do more general labor than ANY of you blacks have- when you actually DO have a job and don't collect welfare. So- just keep on buying your stupid "rimz" and blasting your rediculous music about killing and shooting while collecting your welfare- not because you don't have the capacity to get a job, but because you are too damn lazy and undetermined to get one. You were transported to this country 200 years ago and epic failed as a race. We had to sneak across the border and work our asses off, and the hispanic community is on the up and up. We work hard, speak normally and actually strive to make a living and get educated. So nobody "owes" you shit. IF the black community is so distraught from being in America, please take your ass back to Africa. I will personally lay 1,000 miles of concrete to make the money to send you back. Just go.
Ok so I see EXACTLY where you're coming from. Not all black people, but most of them do talk WAY too loud in the most inappropriate places. It's not only rude, but it's a sign of ignorance and, a lot of times, lack of inteligence. I think that whoever answered this question has no right to call the asker a fool. You are a fool not only for calling him/her that, but also for answering this question in the manner that you did. I don't know why you think you are better thatn anyone else and, just to let you know, your comment clearly states that you think black people are better than whites. No one said that you need to speak with the "clamness of Denzel" so I don't know why you are bringing things that don't make a difference into your answer. The only thing that shows is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh, and white people do not shout that often. Actually if you paid any attention to the world, you would know that white people make up the majority of the shy/quiet people all over the world. Not all white people gossip like you think. You are CLEARLY stupid, ignorant, loud, and most disappointing, RACIST. If there were less people like you, then our world would be a much, much better place.
-If you agree with me, please say so.
I would definitely not say being loud is a black thing. I am black and I am quite aware of when I should be loud and when I should not be loud. And I am considerate of my surroundings. So it is not that black people are loud, it is the person as an individual.
I'm black and black people are loud. It annoys me. When black people get in groups, they're almost always gonna be loud. I don't know why, but it is really annoying. Almost embarrassing at times.
Everyone keeps writing about "the right" to do whatever they want such as speaking loudly or acting stupid. If you look at the constitution and its amendments there are limitations to those so called "rights". So the next time you think you have the right to be publicaly loud, think again.
that's the dumbest explanation. i was expecting something intellegent but that explanation is horrible.
Im black, but im not in the obnoxious category. Im quiet and respectful, because I was always raised to be. The difference between me, and an obnoxious black person, is that there parents are acting a fool where ever they go, they had to have learned this behavior from their (also) obnoxious parents. Their prents do it, so its ok...But its not! I cant stand when im walking at school and I see a group of blacks yelling and screaming right in each others face like they dont have any kind of sence! But if you ask them POLITELY to keep it down a little bit, they want to fight...or they talk even louder just to annoy you! It drives me nuts because i know all black people are not disrespectful like that, but other races sometimes tend to generalize......I know its not that hard to keep it down in certain situations, like being in the library...if someone calls me in the library, i QUIETLY answer and say i cant talk because im in the library, or i leave for a moment to finish my phone call if its important. Not that hard folks, just learn some respect, and people will respect you....
black people are loud in groups because we always find something to laugh about and have a really good time, just cant help ourselves. i hate hearing other black people being loud but if you sit and think "why are they loud all the time" sit and watch them. and what are they doing?...smiling. so dont get your pannies in a bunch just cause youve got a stick up your ass, okay of course when youre trying to study then dont get mad politely ask em to be quiet if they rude and ghetto, leave. but besides that just ignore. cause if you were out having a good time with your friends and talking and laughing and being loud would you want a rude person coming up and saying "can you shut the fuck up?!" and kill your buzz? no. ignore rude people yeah?
I've seen people from all walks of life be loud in public, but yes I do find there is a greater tendency for black people to be loud.
This doesn't even have to include speaking with an elevated voice. If I'm on a public bus and I hear really loud music (so loud I can hear it clearly above my own!), the source is almost always a black person/group.
However, I do think the cause is likely how most black people are raised compared to other cultures. I think being lively and assertive is promoted and reinforced at a young age, especially in their community of friends and family. Eventually, these traits begin to evolve and take on new forms as they age and often times is leads to this "reckless disregard for society".
Now, I'm not trying to be racist or anything; my opinion is just based on personal anecdotes. I live in a neighborhood that is mostly populated by black people, and I see a lot of this loudness as I walk through. Personally, I'm a very quiet person, but I attribute this characteristic to my seclusion from my surrounding community as I was being raised.
YAY! Racist comments. You can like Obama, Tiger Woods, Basketball, or think Emon is super hot... but that doesn't make your comments any less racist. You wanted to be treated as an inividual, thats why you look up obscure bands, watch indie films, or whatever floats your boat so instead of saying that those people are loud BECAUSE they're black how about saying that person over there in the blue shirt next to the door talks really loudly with his friends. And the "GET OVER SLAVERY" comments from white folks or any folks is kinda rediculas. White people went into a country, took people by force (in the mean while leaving those places in poverty and fueling warfare which can still be seen in post coloinal Africa), make them work for no money, tell them they're lesser even animals (while reguarly raping the women), beating them, taking they're basic rights to mairrage the vote and human dignity, it taking a war to set them free (just a historical fact I know Lincoln did it to cause economic distress in the South more so than moral reasons), re-enslave them economically, dis-enfranchise them, seperate them from normal society, put them in schools that are woefully underfunded, make the women give births in hospitals that cause infant mortality amoung black babies to be over three times the amound of white babies (we're into the 1940s now), linch them, make them be sentenced by all white racist juries, keep them from marring white people (the importance of this is to say that by saying that whites and blacks cannot marry indicates a beilif that there is something genetically and medically different about whites and blacks), when they demand to be treated as humans beat them, blow them up, hit them with tear gass, water hoses and bullets, when they demand equal education so that they may have opportunity threaten them, yell at them, throw things at them. Black people are still sentanced for longer jail time for the same crime with the same record than whites. There is still an unrefutable income, education, and medical gap between whites and blacks. If you are black it is more likley that you will be sent to the front lines during war (this is also true for latinos). Blacks are still protrayed as clowns, rapists, criminals, and exotic by the mass media causing an irrational fear in white women of being raped by a black man (although individuals are more likey to be raped by someone they know than a stranger). So consider that next time any one tells you that the black people just need to "get over it."
Wanna know something sad... you are more likey to beilive what I just said is valid now, because I'm white.
God bless (really I do mean that)
I'm half black half white, no one can tell because I really look more Native American than anything.I have only received racist comment from blacks which is ironic. Whites have never treated me badly, and they've always accepted me as one of them. Therefore sometimes it can be hard for me to relate with the black side of my heritage. I think that blacks are using slavery as an excuse for a lot of things, without really realizing that at some point every race has to been a slave EVEN CAUCASIANS. I've never really noticed that BLACKS in particular are louder than any other race. There are loud obnoxious people in ALL races. It never hit me that it was mainly blacks making all the noise. I don't think its so much there race as to what they've grown up seeing and hearing and doing.
Loudness and ignorance doesn't have a certain culture or is present to a specific race. The commentators put it off as blacks are the only race that acts obnoxious when they are not. Me, being a young black female (16 to be exact), notices that whites, Hispanics and even Asians have been unappropiate at the wrong occasions. I have grew up in a place that people would consider the "ghetto" but I don't act like it. It all is based on people as a whole, an how they choose to present themselves. Not a race or a sex. After reading the comments and the passage, I was slightly offended. Yes, I am ashamed of some actions that black people to that was described to a t in the passage bit I'm definately not ashamed to say that I am a proud black young lady that chooses to overcome stereotypes that other races give us.
For anyone in here trying to say that calling a person black instead of African-American is racist, maybe you should think to yourself about how many times other races call white people Caucasians….. it is not racist to call a person black or to call a person white. It is simply a description of their appearance for clarification of to whom a certain person is referring.
Oh, and by the way, everyone understands and is well aware that many Africans were slaves in America. But guess what??? Not only black people were persecuted in America. Most of the cultures that came to America were persecuted, but in time, persecution fades and people change. All any citizen that I know wants from any other fellow citizen is the common bond of everyone in America trying their best and doing their best to do positive things that will further our country and society as a whole instead of taking from it. They want to know that they are not alone in trying to make America a better and more thriving place.
To put this is another perspective completely away from anything in America, I know several people who were born and raised in Germany. The shear mentioning of the Nazi party makes them get very angry because that is not whom they are, but rather what many that came before them in the same location believed. Just because someone’s father, grandfather, etc. believed something or acted certain ways does not mean that it follows down the blood line. People think for themselves and form their own opinions. You should not judge a book by its cover, but rather judge it upon its actions and integrity. I have never known a person of integrity of any race that was not respected in at least some sense by others.
Every one is focusing on the wrong thing... Poor people are loud, rude, and obnoxious. Yes a lot of black people are poor and that is because of historical factors cause by society. But wetback play that loud banda crap stiking tuba. White people play their country music fly their confedrate flags, talk about their rights to bear arm. Poor poople do this. They feel powerless for the most part, so they have to act out to be noitced. If you don't want to be around rude obnoxious people, have to move to a better zip code. I'm a black guy. Don't have poor friends so I don't have to deal with this type of unseemly behavior. It definitely isn't a "black thing" it's a poor thing, and they don't understand why thier poor they were born into it, and they feel like it's somebody else fault (which it is, their parents, who shouldn't have birthed them in the first place when they can't afford it) Poor Latinos -- or Nacos as we call them, just as bad, worse than black, cat call at women the have no business even looking at, pissing in the streets. No black people aren't loud. Poor people on the other hand, need manners.. they don't have money, if they had manners they would get further in life.
LOL! wow, I found this when I typed in, "Why are..." in google.
this just proves how stupid AMERICAN culture has become.
When people ask me what I am I answer, "Human... aren't you?"
how does that phrase go, "Live and let live."
1. Not all Black people are loud.
2. Many Black people are quiet.
3. Many non-Black people are loud.
4. Not all non-Black people are loud.
I think most of the differences lie in socioeconomic class and/or upbringing differences more than the amount of pigmentation in someone's skin. Also, it has to do with other cultural factors. It isn't really a racial issue if you think about it that way.
Please be more informed before you make hasty generalizations. I feel so sorry for this country (U.S.) and this world. I wish I weren't a part of it when I see such blatant demonstrations of ignorance. :(
I stumbled across this blog because a friend told me to type in the word 'why' in google and see what pops up. I was intrigued by this post because I am in fact a young black female. I agree with most people when they say that blacks are loud almost ALL of the time. Hey, I'm loud! Especially when i get around my friends and family. We do it because we want to, PERIOD. I believe that if you are too scared to open your mouth and voice your opinion using your fingers to type on the keyboard is a WASTE OF TIME!
To be honest, we don't give two shits about what people think of us. We do what we want, when we want, because we are granted that freedom. You can spend your time hating it, but that's time you could be spending on doing something much more productive. Get a life, live it, and stop worrying about us! THANX
I Seriously love the excuse "because we can" I kill people BECAUSE I CAN i make fun of people "because I can" I made a bomb and blew up a car "because I can". Sounds stupid doesn't it?
Don't use some bullshit excuse to a matter of respect. You don't go into someones house uninvited and steal shit because you can. I mean c'mon now I'm white so obviously I'm racist according to random people I've told to shut up. "Who you racist ass telling to shut up" "You" "FUCK YOU RACIST" -One of the most fun confrontations I have ever had. White power, Black power, Mexican power, Canadians suck.
It is funny how these people can say things like this when you can ask yourself what is different between black and white. We are living together now so what is the problem. Yes blacks are loud but they are not alone some whites are just the same. Rolling there eyes,talking very loud on the phone. Making out in front of people so ask yourself. Whites and Blacks make the same mistakes but just different kinds.
Anton Chigur Furiously Said,
Black people have a chip on their shoulder that they refuse to give up. What else do you want from us? The president is black. It's a proven law that blacks crave attention more then any other race. They are loud and obnoxious. Especially when they happen to be fat black women. The excuse, because we can is pathetic. You wonder why people have certain stereotypes about you. Because they are true.
Some of you dumb asses need to learn to spell.
I would just like to say I couldnt hv said it better myself!Plain and simple just dnt Sterotype black people,that'll make us get loud as well.
Ugh. I get annoyed by loud, rude ANY people, but it just so happens that 9 times out of 10 the loud, rude and disrespectful people making all the noise are: (wait for it) Black! I know, shocking.
I do agree with Jamella- it's done because they "want to" and don't care about the way it portrays them. I think it's sad, really. I know that I, as an african american, want to noticed as an intelligent, well spoken, literate and educated individual. I wish more black people wanted this as well. It's also one thing to be loud and have an outgoing personality and another to be screaming and ignorant.
Check yourself guys- try to act like someone deserving of the respect you'll scream about if you don't get. Grow up. It's 2010- stop trying to "prove yourself" and just be a normal human being.
just like black people's loudness freaks out the average american, i find it creepy as hell for a person to be quiet all the time...so white people, u scare us too!
I agree White people should not stereotype us saying why all Blacks are loud. I don't go around saying why do all White teens smoke because I have noticed that almost all of them smoke even the girls. Most young college women who are black don't smoke but when I’m on campus almost all White women who are young smoke. I admit that I’m pretty loud my whole family is loud and it’s nothing I can do about it because to Blacks being loud is normal. If you are quite then we think OMG it’s a problem or what was your day bad. You have to be loud, it’s the norm and it’s our code of conduct we are not trying to be rude it’s our voices. You hear a white person speak and they talk low there voice has a low pitch then you hear a black person talk and our voice is loud pitch even when we are not yelling. So when we are standing together we get excited and we start talking even louder because we are happy. When you see a black person all quite sit down beside him and ask him wats up because he is either sad or uncomfortable. I have to disagree with people who are white and Jewish about really being Jewish. I believe that during the African Diaspora Europeans decided to take the name for because they knew the truth that the first people were African and Jews were Africans. There were not any whites at that time during the birth of Christ who lived in Africa, the name of the bible have been changed to discourage African who had been in slavery. If you ever wonder why Blacks were slave here in this far away country which is America it’s because our ancestors were Jewish and murdered Jesus Christ. Back to me being loud I’m really loud in I love shouting at the movie screen its fun to do so! lol
Well, Kate101, you keep yelling at the movie screen and the rest of the world will continue to judge and stereotype black people. Good work.
And note: Most white teens don't smoke. Not sure where you're seeing this, but you would be incorrect in this assumption.
And FYI: it's "quiet" not quite.
Honestly, I don't think this got anything to do with just being black...I am African (not African American) and a teen. I am not loud my sisters aren't loud my other African friends aren't loud. I think the problem is being a teenager and American. I don't mean to generalize but the reason AMERICAN TEENS whether black or white are loud is because they can. And of course not all of them are loud but it’s true. I go to the movie theaters and I see both black and white teenagers occasionally screaming. Sure, African American girls are usually screaming at the screen because they are angry. While American white girls are screaming because they have just seen a HOT guy. Overall they are all loud and not because their black or white but because that’s how they were raised and how the America’s ideals (don’t get me wrong is great) allows them to be.
just because one CAN be loud, does not mean they SHOULD. a conversation of two should not annoy a group of 10, regardless of race, gender, religion, etc. and plus, if one does not want to be judged negitivly, do not persent one to a community with such boldness. nuff said
Hey guys, if you have a problem with some ignorant nig nogs, do what i to, grow some balls, turn around and tell then to shut the fuck up! most are just talk, and have no muscle mass.
I think that black people still hold a grudge. which of course is absolutely ridiculous. everyone that had anything to do with slavery and the oppression of blacks is long gone. Now, it seems all the blacks feel that the white race still owes them something. well let me put it this way coming from a non racist white american. WE DONT OWE YOU SHIT. blacks have been out of oppression for years and they're still bitchin. the majority of them still don't do much as a community to change their image. they are still killing one another more than any other race on the planet. still have the highest crime rate, still very very loud where ever they go. and not to mention most of them are just rude. and they say they are church goers most of them. god has no more sympathy for you people than he does for pigs being slaughtered so people can eat.
Anton Chigur (White),
Have you not noticed yet that even your own kind agrees with us? Just admit you are loud and a general annoyance to everyone around you. And that statistic about white smoking is completely retarded, you have no evidence to support that.
Anton Chigur (White),
Furthermore I do not support this officious meathead a few comments up, creating strange racial slurs and talking about muscle mass. I would rather be loud and black then a caveman.
To everyone black here that is affirming the stereotype about us being loud, please stop it. We are not all loud, so why would you reinforce that ignorant statement by agreeing with it and testifying to the fact? Be proud to be black, but please, know what it really means to be black. It means a lot of things but it doesn't mean that you are loud by default, no more than not being loud means you're not black. I will say this much: I feel that a lot of the social problems that plague the black community are attributed to the institution of slavery, and how black families were systematically broken up, so that many times the father was sold off, leaving mothers to care for children. A lot of us may not even know our lineage farther back than a few generations, because of this. Once you start to break up the family unit in repeated cycles, especially when the father is removed, that leads to an ultimate break down of the family, and family values. The break down was perpetuated to the point that many of our modern day black men have not had the benefit of having that positive reinforcement from black males in the family because the cycle gained so much momentum over the centuries that it has carried on into modern day society in many instances. So with that being said, many of the young black males that idolize "the thug life" and all that it entails, and the young black females that idolize those wannabe thugs in many cases were the products of the aforementioned broken homes. For the ones that choose to emulate that behavior when they have been afforded the opportunities to choose a better path in life, well peer pressure is a nagging b1tch and "urban" media is her strong-handed pimp, but you are ultimately responsible for your own choices so please make the right ones. BTW, I am the one who also posted about the Honda S2000 search that led me to this site.
What it comes down to is that people just plain suck in general, and it just happens that different groups of people tend to suck in different ways. These rules are of course not universal, but it's just stupid to deny that *tendencies* do exist. Whether we're talking about blacks having a thug mentality or a sense of entitlement, or the white middle class being lazy fatasses or ignorant rednecks, or hispanics destroying the notion of a 'language of the land' by not learning english, or europeans being elitist pricks, or asians being socially awkward in general, the fact is that people of all varieties just plain suck. You can't change it on a large scale. All you can do is not be part of the problem, and persuade those close to you to do the same. Arguing on the internet can be fun anyway, hence why I'm even here, but have no illusions of effecting massive change by ranting.
What it comes down to is that people just plain suck in general, and it just happens that different groups of people tend to suck in different ways. These rules are of course not universal, but it's just stupid to deny that *tendencies* do exist. Whether we're talking about blacks having a thug mentality or a sense of entitlement, or the white middle class being lazy fatasses or ignorant rednecks, or hispanics destroying the notion of a 'language of the land' by not learning english, or europeans being elitist pricks, or asians being socially awkward in general, the fact is that people of all varieties just plain suck. You can't change it on a large scale. All you can do is not be part of the problem, and persuade those close to you to do the same. Arguing on the internet can be fun anyway, hence why I'm even here, but have no illusions of effecting massive change by ranting.
this is all crazy. i have came in contact with MANY of loud white people. its not about what color you are. im black and i am very loud its not to annoy anybody its just how i am and sometimes i dont notice it. im only loud when im really happy and in a good mood. idc about what happened 400 something years ago. im not going to use us (black people) being slaves and now we have freedom as an excuse because its not a good one honestly. my whole point is that blacks are not the only loud ones.
I completely understand what you are saying. many black people are extremely obnoxious. there is a difference between being loud and obnoxious. black people need to make it know they are in the room. as far as the answer you received. please let me laugh a moment. Get off your black pride and come to realize that you are not the only race in this world that has been through rough times. Yes slavery was bad but did it happen to you NO nor did it happen to your parents or grand parents. It happed a LONG time ago so stop talking about your black power. look at the the Jews and what they went through and native Americans. Do you see them bitching about life. do you see them being insanely obnoxious in every day life. do you see them walking around like they run shit and pushing everyone who even walks in there way. NO you don't. you can call me racist or whatever you like it will not effect me. i have many black friends and my sister is married to a black guy. They know my opinions on the race and no it is not all black people but stereotypes are there for a reason and it is usually because the majority does something to bring it about.
I'm sorry but at no point were you close to a rational thought, I award you no points. We are all now dumber having read this. May the lord have mercy on your soul!
Cailin,
To preface what I'm about to say. Consider conformity. How has the white man conformed in the past 200 years or so? How has the black man conformed? I'd say it is disproportionate. Start conforming slightly, like we have immensely.
Firstly, stop being biased. What these people are doing is "prejudice" based on simple heuristics; not racism. We do not believe black people are loud because they are black, we believe they are loud because they are, simply put, loud at the most inappropriate times. We notice this because the black population in America is about 15%, but 4/5 times we see this issue, the culprit is black. Before black people, many other cultures were slaves (though you would not know this when you dropped out of your 1st year of high school). 600,000 Americans died for black rights during the Civil War. Half of America ALREADY weren't supporting slaves. You beg for indifference between races, while you plead for assistance from the government. You boast of superior athletic ability, but when whites say they are more intelligent, you claim racism, though all scientific and psychological evidence points toward this fact. Oh no, whites (from Europe 90% of the time) raped black women? Oh wait, the crime rate is overwhelming, the US budget is screwed, and still, blacks are receiving Affirmative Action for school, are the cause of the new potential health care bill (which will hurt all but the lazy, unemployed and predominately black who are NO LONGER affected by slavery). Yes, there's prejudice. On both sides. The fact is, blacks prefer whites more than other blacks; police are not more weary around blacks because of racism, they are because blacks are far more violent. You receive Affirmative Action for school, but why do I not receive Affirmative Action for sports? You're predominately better, are you not?
Before you speak again, to yourself, or to others... And especially before you voice your opinion. Realize that your "words" are not fact because you say them. Study up. Prejudice is an issue, racism is an issue; for both races. But realize what WE have done for you that NO one had done before us, remember what OUR 600,000+ ancestors (American) died for...
I would go through and rebuttal all of your points, but my intelligence quotient plummeted from your massive biases from minute number one and I can no longer take it, my articulation has dropped considerably through this reply because of your ridiculous claims.
The point is, become part of your race's solution. Not the problem. Stop being hypercritical, stop taking so much offense, so easily, stop have blacks stop calling themselves "nigga" when it's taboo, and certainly stop saying "cracka" even though it's not because we are so nice about it.
Racism exists because we let it. WE, the overwhelming fact is that we are 50/50 in our contribution to racism and prejudice, while you are only 15% of the population.
If it weren't for the American "white man" you would all be slaves or extinct. You would have AIDS with a dead family living in awful conditions in Africa.
If you hate us whites in America who freed you, go back to Africa (that whites pump billions of tax dollars into). The Europeans ravaged a culture 200 years behind their technological and intellectual time. What whites did was horrible, but what we also did by freeing you and making you more equal... Is truly great. So let's be equal. If you don't believe we've done enough then here's your option:
Push for a bill that allows all blacks a one-way free flight to Africa, you may not return. I dislike PEOPLE, not black people.
The idea that broken down families in black communities has caused far less fatherhood is an unproven and unprovable fact. It is circular reasoning; a black male is more likely to be deviant because he's less likely to have an active father while a black father is more likely to be inactive because black males are deviant. There is no explanation and no proof to this point, though general common sense may dictate some correlation.
Considering that Jews were broken up far worse than blacks in many more cultures and for far longer a period of time proves that families being broken up does not have an overwhelming effect, while it may hurt.
Claiming racism is simply a facade to try to keep the majority at your level. Not all prejudice is racism, as previously stated; "stereotypes are there for a reason." They are not created out of thin air.
I have many black friends, I make racist comments around them as they do around me... Because it's a difference that we assimilate in order to cope. All different cultures have to cope, not demand. A black man is president. If every single black person in America voted for Obama and no one else did, the chances of him winning would be slim to none. Most people are racist towards the individual, not the group. If you want racism and categorization to go away, stop purposely speaking differently, stop purposely yelling in public, stop purposely dressing differently, stop it. Blacks have worse punishments for crimes because they are more likely to commit and recommit after parole or making it through a sentence. IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF RACISM THAT SENTENCES ARE DIFFERENT.
I have far more to say, but this subject is like arguing about Goku vs. Superman. Pointless, because the majority of people are ill-educated, will dumb you down to their level and beat you with experience (in ALL cultures).
haha they can be loud but im mexican and sometimes loud!!!!!!! i know a black kid who is really quit soo....just because there a diif color doesnt mean they diff on the inside!
"Racism." What does this word really mean in modern times? Yes, using this word is an excuse to act ignorant in the name of "equality." Which you may thank us for, anytime.
Yes, black AND white people make ALL the same mistakes. Huge shocker. Jews, Hindus and Muslims make the same mistakes. NO WAY?!?! The similarity between is all is we're human... The difference is that:
In America, blacks are roughly 15% of the population, whites are roughly 65%. Yet, I almost exclusively see black people making a scene when it's unnecessary. In proportion, the fact that 4/5 times, the noticeable and annoying antagonist (one yelling) is black, shows that you cannot compare blacks and whites as a black and white subject. The gray is "proportion."
Whites are cause for slightly over 50% of crime. No, blacks do NOT meet that, but the fact that the black crime rate is 36% is absolutely hilarious. that means a black is 5x more likely to be a criminal. Whites also comprise 27% of violent crimes; blacks are 61%.
Stop demanding equality for the sake of it. You are human and that does not mean you deserve equality; you earn it (which is usually by sitting around and minding your own business). Which so many people do not understand anymore.
I'm sorry for what blacks went through. I'm far more sorry for the innumerable other cultures who have been through far worse and have to endure your constant bitching about problems that were never your own and are only in distant memories you manipulate in your own minds to feel privileged. Live to live, not to spite.
Well, It doubtful anyone is going to scroll this far down to read this but oh well. To start with, I am black. African to be exact and I am loud and proud but no when to stop. If any of you who are making comments like "all blacks are loud" and "it shows that black people are ignorant", it shows exactly how ignorant you are. If you were as intelligent as you claimed you would know that different cultures have different norms and for your information according to leading psychologists and sociologists, and for black people loud is a norm. The reason it is considered disrespectful is because some people, regardless of race seem to think that America is a one culture nation. Yes, we do have the ghetto black people who are annoying as all hell, and yes we make rap music that talks about death and violence. But guess what? You have death-core and heavy metal and emo music that makes little white kids mutilate themselves and blow up schools. So yes black people are loud, SOME of us in inappropriate environs but heck white people have their faults. So the answer is, how about we don't lump everybody in the same pot ay?
Jarky,
I agree with a lot of what you said. It's fine to be different and have different cultures. Now, the majority of cultures have conformed and indirectly created a universal norm for public standards. It doesn't matter if you are black and your culture is to be loud; the fact is, being loud is fine, being loud and inconsiderate enough to disrupt other people in the office or at school is just a dick move, for ANY culture. Though the culture that does this most often by a huge margin, is the black culture... I'm sorry that it is an inescapable fact however unfortunate it may be.
WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It doesnt matter what yall sang, your still loud as hell and its really annoying
you wernt the one singing we shall over come to any body that was your ansesters just like it was our ansesters that did all them horrible things to "African Americans" you aint from africa first of all your ansesters are you are american if my dad was from africa an i was born in the us am i african american no im american get over it its ok for black people to make a tv channel called Black Entertainment television but if we made a White or Caucasion television then that would be racist right think about it.
...omg black people are loud???? i can't believe you're saying that...duh...i don't understand why the black people commenting on here are soooooo surprised that this question would be asked. MOST of them are loud...i'm not racist by any means but i work at a middle school with all different races of children...6th, 7th and 8th grade...and the people that i can always hear at the other side of the building are the little black girls...they can't shut their mouths for shit. there are a few obnoxious white kids and a few obnoxious mexican kids also so don't think i'm saying white or any other race aren't loud ever.
here are a couple of quick facts about your stupid "you're racist" comments...
first of all, the spanish started the slave trade...that's why you were called negros..."negro" is black in spanish. duh.
second, black men had rights before WHITE women...
third, i'm pretty sure i have never owned a slave or ANY of MY family let alone anyone else that has commented on here.
so stop being all but-hurt and get over yourselves...seriously
I'm black and I find it sooo annoying when groups of Black people talk so loud or say the N word with each other.It's pretty embarrassing so i refrain from being around them because i don't want to be associated with being loud and obnoxious. I'm not saying only blacks talk loudly too but you notice it more because its already a stereotype. I go to the mall or to watch movie and I see groups of Asian's doing the same thing and its just as annoying. I just don't understand why black people don't find it a problem acting like the bad stereotypes.
I found this site by the sheer popularity of "Why are blacks so loud?" Let me start out with that I am Asian American and I also attributed partly to their culture/environment. But I also do wish there was a stronger line of consideration in movies, study areas, restaurants, trains... Some people here are so defensive but understand we are not telling them to shut up. Everyone talks on trains... but not to the level it rudely disturbs others. Asians talk extremely loudly on the phone sometimes and again I find it irksome. If there is such obnoxious loudness in movies, restaurants, etc... it does originate from a group of african americans.
People also jump on the racist train. I may just be racist because I would be quite scared if I see a black man walking towards me at midnight out in the street. Should I be cautious? Yes. It doesn't help that statistically, the crimes committed by blacks are overwhelmingly high. Think about that.
Jarky, from reading most of the comments, I think most know that not all blacks are loud.
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why are most of u ppl bein d*cks for not all black people are loud, i see loads of chavy f*ckin white people being louder than everyone else, black people arent loud unless they are with other people sometimes and they are laughing or talking etc. some of the white and asian people talking on here dont realise that people like them normlly talk louder than others. and why are people sayin they scared if a big black guy came towrds them?? i be scared if some asian with a backpack came towards me :/
african american people are louder because thats how whoever created this world, wheather it ala or god or whoever, made us. we tend to speak our mind. and in my opinion its worked out fantastically so far. people in my family are very well behaved and loud at the same time. but by being loud and speaking your mind,you get rid of of all the pricks in your life. just because we're african american we're loud.???? nah i dont think so. every person on earth is loud at some point in their life. ad if you still think about african americans this way answer the question of why white peopleare found more in the north than in the south. i think its because african americans were brought here to do the work they were too lazy to do. just becauss someone has dark skin doesnt mean that theyre automatically going to be loud and obnoxious. get to know a person before making racial accusations or judgements.
they dress like morons, act like morons, and are retards and don't belong in this society, except the ones who act like normal people of course
ACTUALLY, everyone here is historically off-based. The reason Blacks speak loudly dates back to the slave era when it was punishable by slave owners for any slave to whisper. Slave owners thought a quiet slave was dangerous. For reasons of living peaceably in a desperate situation, Blacks began to speak loudly to appease the irrationality of their oppressors. Overtime, it has just become a norm for Blacks to speak at higher octaves than ones whose American experience was without a history enthralled with slavery. It may be of an inconvenience; however, as with all things, time has a way of healing such seemingly offensive behaviors. I even find myself joining in at times -not mockingly, but as sort of a soul cleansing experience. Try it! Yelling is cleansing for the lungs. (medical fact)
hey. white power? wtf did i miss a civil rights movement or something shut up and listen to the first amendment they can talk how they wantthere ain't no law on volume.
I must say this is a very humorous argument but none the less mostly factual.. good discussion
Honestly some of you guys make good points. The truth is black people are loud becuase we feel we have nothing to hide. I've never seen a person talk loud in order to hide something. Whispering and speaking quietly are for people who are paranoid and are trying to be sneaky. Also please do NOT pretend black people are the only loud ones. I go to a prep school in DC and I know a ton of loud ass white kids. And no race is perfect, every race has its vices and misdoings. As for the jewish gentleman who left the first comment, the only reason jewish people can't complain is because you guys aren't still oppressed. Black people are still oppressed and condemned.... or did you forget about the Jena 6.
Wow, whoever wrote this article speaks EXACTLY like the people we are talking about in the original question. I could just imagine you screaming that whole uneducated rant of yours. Pretty lame. And as far as everyone calling them "African Americans", they are not. They are Negroes, orrr, just AMERICANS! Most of them have never been to Africa and never will. I don't expect someone to call me Irish-American, or German-American. No fuckers, I was born in the god damn U-S of A, I'm American! Now, I have to say, the blacks are indeed the most vocal of any group, and this is why they are more collectively despised of any group. They unfortunately got the opportunity to grab hold of the mainstream music industry, it was merely of out sympathy and trying to shut them up. Let me make it clear, NEGROES ARE LOUD. There is no denying is. If you go on Google and start to type, "Why are"..., the first thing that comes up is, "Why are black people so loud.". For god sake, there are not 12 million search results for no reason, and entire forums about it because someone met a loud black guy.
Another thing that the Negroes really need to stop doing is using past generational slavery a bargaining chip. You have never been enslaved, nor will you ever. In fact, in America, as "African-Americans", you collectively had one of the shortest time periods in history of enslavement. And a small fact you might want to consider is the fact that it wasn't the white slave traders who enslaved you, it was your fellow Negro who sold you to a white slave trader. If that still doesn't appease your nerves, consider this, slavery lasted in Europe up until the end of the 19th century, and in China it ended as late as 1906. But wait! There had been hundreds of generations of Asian slaves that had been enslaved since the dynasty eras and the battles between Mongolia as well as Japan.
Now you live in this country as equals, so start acting like it. You got more than what you deserved, and it cost the nation a price just to give you what you wanted, and yet, many Negroes still blames Whites for their misfortune. No, you're wrong. Thank you.
Ok everyone. I am Black, and heres my opinion. No race is perfect people. I think we should try to get along for god's sake. Im tired of all this racism on both sides its so stupid. Is this making anything better really? And its topics like this that Promote this problem which makes it an bigger issue. You gotta show some empathy instead of ampathy. If you found yourselves on the computer and seeing the question "Why Do Most People That Live In Trailors White, And Why Are They Referred To As White Trash" had 1.5 million forums and websites I bet you would understand.
Excuse me for my language, I am a Caucasion male and heres to all the people on this. TYPING YOUR PROBLEMS AND OPINIONS ON THE COMPUTER SOLVES WHAT?? THE SATISFACTION OF PISSING OFF TONS OF PEOPLE MAKING IT A BIGGER PROPAGANDA THAN IT IS IS A REAL MATURE THING TO DO. I feel sorry for all of you. Maybe if your that mad about "Why Black People Are So Loud" then you should voice it not over the internet. Btw i would love to see how the world would be without the internet then people like you wouldnt be able to do shit like this.
Hey someone said "there are not so many forums for this topic on the search for no reason" Well ummm try Searching "Why White People Are So Racist" That has twice as many as this topic with an extra 4 million. SO.... :) Explain whys that to me?
umm im mixed i.e (white and black) and this is how i see things from my perspective...
for all those who complain about the whole black entertainment television (b.e.t) network, what u guys dont seem to realize is we got 1 stinkin channel big freakin woop... conciderin 89% of television is basically white... dont get me wrong im not complaining in way or form. but its kinda low that anyone has to bring that up because i would completely agree with u ONLY (if) black people made fun of you on that tv network but that doesnt happen at all... i know a whole bunch of white people that watch B.E.T.
what u all dont seem to realize is that B.E.T doesnt mean " BLACK PEOPLE ONLY " its just a television network that revolves what black people like for example (hip hop and gospel).In other words... "You" complaining about B.E.T is like me complaining about G.A.C (Great American Country) because all its shows is white people... see what im saying??
i mean come on people, use ur brain... The reason for rasicm is simple ignorance and lack of information and facts... Basically in other words (we all dont understand each others culture) remember that everyone.
if you really want to understand black or white culture ask a mixed person on how their outlook on race is and u should get a reasonable answer because we have lived on both sides of the fence.
Wow!! I'm definitely black and definitely NOT loud...though, I've been told I can be "ghetto". A lot of people think that I am quiet, and in certain situations I am, but I am an outgoing person when I want to be. I like this blog and the responses do not surprise me at all. I've grown up in suburbia my entire life (save for the last 10 years when I moved to Washington, DC for school...HU baby!!). I think it's more of a matter of location and opinion. People in the city tend to be louder than people in the more rural areas.
Dear ethnocentric white people, why is it that you think that everyone must live and act the way you do? Cultural difference is a completely legitimate excess for being loud. It's how some people are raised and maybe to them, it's perfectly acceptable to be loud. Just because you don't like it or agree with it, doesn't mean it's wrong.
Hey I guess im a ethnocentric white person, according to anonymous. Why is it that you enforce racial comments to others like "dear ethnocentric white people". I think you are beign a rascits. There is a proper way to act in society at a mall, college campus, movie theatre, and restuarnts. You can be aloud at your home, in your neighborhood, in a park,and at a sporting event. Maybe you should learn manners and then you will be respected. jUST B/C culture encourages a behavior doesnt make it ok or acceptable. There are people in my family who say n!gg$% on a regular basis but i dont shout it out loud in public, b/c it not polite. So therefore it is wrong to be unconsiderate of other people around you.
I love how people say it is perfectly acceptable to be loud when there is noise ordinance in every city in the United States to keep you from being loud. Your loudness infringes on other peoples rights.
I am happy for you that you are no longer slaves, but could you please express your freedom in a quieter tone, or in the other movie theater?
Oh, and stop playing you rap all night at the sound level of a airplane taking off. I have already had to get one of you evicted from my apartment complex.
I'm African American and I do notice that some African Americans are loud and act inappropriate in certain places. I believe that such behavior is uncalled for. I get loud at times, but it would be an Improv or a setting where "loudness" is acceptable. It is disrespectful and inconsiderate to be in a library and holding a loud discussion while people are studying. Even a dorm, it is inconsiderate to have music blasting. However, I do want to point out that I see lots and lots of Hispanics, Caucasins and other ethnicities listening to rap music. Listening to rap is not a "black" thing. It's that individuals preference. I've witnessed people in Corporate America listening to rap music. So, I disagree with rap theory mentioned above.
Because I can and we don't care what people think are two answers that make you seem like inconsiderate, rude, classless dirt.
If I chose to, I could legally swear at everyone at high volumes all day. That would make me an inconsiderate, rude, classless pile of dirt too.
There is a time when you must think about what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do.
Rap has nothing to do with it. And would you please stop bringing up slavery as though it mattered these days. No one currently alive was ever a slave in America and I doubt there are very many currently alive who ever KNEW or spoke to anyone who was a slave in America. A vast majority of black families don't even have ties to the country going back far enough to have had slaves in their family.
I am an intelligent African American female and do have the abitlity to to reflect quietly. I do admit that black people are loud, damn anyone who says we arent, but even so, I could ask a question like why do white people say the word "like" so frequently? Why are white girls so damn chipper? Why do white people lock there doors when they see any group of African Americans walking down the streets, when its not African Americans that show up on all these news reports doing crazy shit like carving people up and eating them ("lock up"...look it up) or tatooing the whites of their eyes blue and red and getting swastikas tatooed all over the place. So, you wanna know why we're so loud? When you answer all these questions adequately I promise, I'll tell you! =)
white woman here, throwing my voice into the ring: most of these I'm-not-a-racist-BUT comments here are from white people who believe their culture is "the norm", and have never been educated on the TRUE history of this country, and the lasting effect that still plays out in systems today.
Obviously, it would take pages of Racism 101 to even begin to make a dent. Not wasting my time on that, just wanted to say to the author ... I hear you, and so do others. Go ahead.
I am African American and I have lived my whole life in White communities. I have noticed that being loud is very common among White teeenagers. I am not going to say that young African Americans are not loud too, but that is not my experience. I hate going to the mall on the weekends or walking down the sidewalk outside of the supermarket where White teenagers have decided they want to "hang out". They are yelling to people who are right next to them or skating on the sidewalk or parking lot. They are the main consumers of hip hop music and they are not shy about playing it loudly in their cars; like everyone on the street wants to listen to it too. (If I am behind them other White people look at me as if it is my car with the loud music) I was raised to respect others and not to bring attention to myself. I learned to keep to myself and for that I am glad because it is quite upsetting to read what I have always thought White people must be thinking. It's very painful to read that all of the negative stereotypes About African Americans are alive and well. These loud disrespectful African Americans I can assure you are the minority within our minority. I think White people just pay attention to the loudness of African Americans more because it gives them another reason to justify not liking African Americans.
In America, there is no excuse for being loud in public, indoor settings...none...ABSOLUTELY NONE. It's in American culture to show respect for others in public, so either adjust to it or be prepared to face the consequences. I don't care what race you are, but if you are going to make excuses for being loud, disrespectful, and obnoxious towards other people, then you are an inconsiderate ASS. If more black people partake in this activity, then that means that more black people are inconsiderate asses. Do white, asian, hispanic people do it, too? Of course, but less of them do it (and that's the DAMNED truth). Whoever behaves like an inconsiderate ASS and denies it will continue to behave as such and continue to piss people off and continue to have it used against them. You are not in Africa anymore. It is NOT acceptable.
Black people are loud because they are loud. Plain and simple. Asian people are quiet. Asian people have manners. Black people don't have manners. Black people think they can do whatever they want and act however they want because they are the world's charity case. They get free food, first pick at jobs, free housing, and free college just because of their color and yet they are still the least educated. Why is that a culture can be given every opportunity in the world (even though they deny it) but still be so self destructive? Please don't tell me you are being held down. I work in financial aid and give more aid to black students than any other. You can't say that anymore. You have a black President. Why is Africa so messed up with poverty and disease?
Interesting topic for talk. I typed the word "why" on google home page and second to "why do men have nipples?" reads your question. Apparently its a popular opinion, sure mabee fact. Yet, all of your posts (except those of you I may not have read) ring true to your own opinion. How convenient it is to nitpick the human behavior of another culture using simple subject matter like; tv shows, cross country driving, movie theaters, music, or a college campus, to name a few. Why does one defend and/or another accuse?. Its simple really, all races have such cultural attributes that will pose annoyances to another culture or the rest of humanity for that matter. My understanding of the root problem here, lies with the perversion of such differences. What I mean is, CHANGE, if you know its negatively affecting your neighbor. Considering its a menial thing. I'm not talking belief systems or major life change, just considerations. Its the blatant disregard of the affect on another using your own cultural difs.
Do you think chinese people know of personal space when they think nothing about shoulder checking you in a public setting? I don't think so. I do believe if they knew, they would walk around. Probably not all but those of whom consider.
Listen, I don't assume to be above it, because I have my own vices. I'm only saying, "get over it." You aren't going to change blacks by slandering their culture. And stop messing around with other people just because you can, its rude.
Change.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF UR BLACK ORANGE YELLOW BLUE WHITE OR PURPLE!!!!!!! God made us in different shades FOR A REASON, not becuz he wanted ppl of different race to be prejudice to each other.... please dont listen to stereo types beuz every one is unique n u cant say all blak ppl r loud or all white ppl r loud it depends on YOU.
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n by the way dont blame the f-ing debt on obama we have been in debt for YEARS. it is mainly cuz of a war BUSH started n other stuff
I am a person. Not a great person, not a bad person, just an average person. I am not racist, I am not prejudiced, and I am not discriminated against, either. My point being I feel my point of view is neutral, coming from a completely clean slated focal point.
I am a black, educated female attending grad school. It hurts me and my culture to see this blog, because it is all true.
Black people are DEFINITELY loud. TOO loud. UNNECESSARILY loud. For no reason whatsoever, on TOP of the in your face attitude. I appreciate the brutal truth from people--in a "Those pants look horrible", or "Your hair looks crazy" way. Not a if I get 3 drinks, can I get a discount (I'm a bartender) way. And black people don't tip. I am, again, a BLACK female. And I don't even get tipped. Why? Black people think they already paid enough for their food, "Why I gotta pay a waiter?" Because the service staff survives on tips. That's how the hospitality industry works. FYI, fellow blacks, 1. If you don't want to tip the waiter, even for bad service (sometimes it happens, if your steak comes out overcooked, the COOKS did it, NOT THE WAITER. WAITERS WAIT ON PEOPLE, THAT'S IT! THEY DON'T COOK, OR MAKE THE DRINKS, OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT TAKE YOUR ORDERS!) DO NOT GO OUT TO EAT. 2. You are not entitled to free stuff because you are a customer somewhere. A restaurant or any dining establishment, whether it be small, dingy, or 5 star, overlooking the ocean, is ultimately a restaurant. You CANNOT ask for discounts or free things, you are not at a flea market. These people who own restaurants DO NOT need your business, as you are bringing their social status way down by being loud, condescending and just plain rude.
Getting back to the subject, other black people may disagree with all of this, and other people's opinions, but I agree. I am NOT a loud, rude black person, but I admit my race can be. I realize I can't change the way society views us. But at least I try, one person at a time. I have friends who feel they are discriminated against by many people, and I ask them to wonder why. What is your criminal record like? I stil remember you trying to rob the grocery store on the corner when we were 19. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE. You can't be angry you are being discriminated when you and your fellow peers are making yourselves look bad by robbing people, stores, being thugs, giving people a hard time, dirty looks, attitudes, yelling, not tipping, being inconsiderate....
I'm going to stop here, this is long enough.
But here's a simple thought. Drop the attitude, go to school. We as a race are NOT being oppressed. We are holding ourselves down by having the highest crimal rate in the US.
Acting like a jack_ss, no matter what color you are, doesn't show that you're "representing" who you are with dignity. In fact, it simply shows that you're ignorant and foolish in general. And I'm sorry but, because they can? No, it's not because they can, because everyone can. Doing things just because you can is mindless.
Here's a question in response to the comment "My people did NOT sing "We Shall Overcome" and "Lift Every Voice and Sing" to NOT be able to talk at whatever decibel they like... Hell... we need to be able to shout at the top of our lungs anytime we feel just as every human being should be able to." My question is, why would black people need to be loud when they are together just because they're able to? Is it in order to
communicate/show/prove to the masses that they are free? If that IS why they act that way, then doesn't that just prove that they are insecure with where they are at as a people? Black people along with everyone else can do anything they choose. That doesn't mean that they should choose to act foolishly just because they can just to prove to themselves or others that they can. What good does that accomplish? Black people have freedom. They don't need to prove it by acting out. Black people are no longer being suppressed. Of course there are ignorant white people down in the
south who hate blacks. Of course there are ignorant people in the northwest who don't like native americans for unjustified reasons.
Of course there are people of many races in the U.S. who don't like caucasians. Wake up and look around at the big picture and stop being so egocentric for two seconds. Random hate and disliking is all over the world. And it's never going to disapear. But for those who live in peacable reality, which is the vast majority of the american population, black suppression is over. So I don't think that's a realistic reason for the social circus act.
If absolutely all black people were like that, then I would chalk it up to the reason that it's just the way their race is. But that's not the case, because they are not all like that. I work with many black people and a lot of them aren't like that. And they are aware that they aren't. So it's a matter of choice. I think it's a matter of those who are choosing to act foolish, ignorant, and inappropriate and using culture or history or unfortunate circumstances as an excuse for it. And it's unfortunate that their poor behavior reflects negatively upon their race in general, because there are many blacks whom I know get frustrated with the bad reputation that those people create for them.
I would like to say that I am an educated black woman who is currently attending college myself. Not all black people are loud and obnoxious, that is a small group that does not consist of the whole black population. It is not just black people that are loud in the movie theaters and libraries. White people, chinese people, spanish people and any other race are also loud in the libraries and movie theaters talking loudly listening to music laughing loudly. I agree there are some loud and obnoxious blacks and it is irrating but i am not a loud person and I actually dont like hanging around loud people regardless of what color they are I dont care if you black blue purple or orange. It has nothing to do with race because white kids are loud and rude also and feel that it is ok, and I dont think it is right generalize and say that all blacks are loud because it is not true. And i dont listen to rap actually so all black people dont listen to rap. So instead of generalizing and sterotyping why dont people get to know one another and learn something instead of making themselves look ignorant by saying a whole race not just a few people are loud and obnoxious because it is not true.
I never knew about this I was just told to type in 'why are' into google and it was first recommendation, this isn't the first link though. Some people here are somewhat racist and many are fairly ignorant. Some wise words(I only made it halfway down the comments). But I had to post this somewhere SOMEWHERE here is this site I found today
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?s=e7044bc64a66936be59639ef198a26f9&t=350725
Its so racist. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RACIST Ive never seen anything like it in my life. And I have seen some extremes of the internet. But this, these people make anything I read here nothing NOTHING in terms of racism. The scary thing is some of them are fairly intelligent and notably articulate.
You know, I've wondered this myself. I wouldn't say that I'm racist but observant. Yes I'm nerved about my fellow whites talking shit at a whisper; being too scared to come out with it, but I have to say that for the most part blacks are obscenely loud.
When I go to a movie theater or restaurant and it's full of blacks, I don't even bother going in. This is due to experience not racism. I would do the same with any other group of people that would act that way.
You say that blacks talk so loudly because they can. Well, of course you can. Anyone could, but others choose not to because we have had a certain decency instilled in us by our parents.
I think that blacks feel they are showing dominance by doing this and that the white man is scared. Well let me tell you, this white boy ain't scared of shit.
I served in the military as a Cav Scout during Iraqi Freedom. There were only a handful of blacks that served in Combat Arms. It was predominantly the white boys putting their ass on the line. Where am I going with this?
It's usually those that talk all the shit and are the loudest that are weakest. I'm using my military experience as an example. The loud obnoxious blacks in my platoon were the only ones hitting the dirt when it was time to nut-up or shut-up.
It's sad that I have to carry a pistol everywhere I go because of fear of being attacked. Everywhere I go there are groups of blacks being loud and stupid, talking shit as I walk by, and not showing any respect towards my wife and kids. Little do they know, if I draw my weapon I'll kill them.
There are for more blacks in prison than whites. I know that most would argue "that's because of poverty". Well, maybe if the black community would finally decide to conform to our society and laws they wouldn't have such a high poverty rate.
No one wants to hire a loud mouth. People don't respect those that act as if they own the world. If you want to get a decent job and get out of poverty maybe you should act like a normal person.
I'm sick of hearing blacks complain about the man holding them down. The reality is that you guys are your own man. You hold yourself down by being so damn rude and obnoxious. You call each other nigga even. Who do you think will take you seriously.
Time to police each other up and stop doing shit just because you can.
I didn't know where to turn to. I am currently living in a predominately black neighborhood. HELL I am the only one of my race here. I'm non-white too... it sucks to be stereotyped and all that but I am soooooo frustrated by the fact that there are the LOUDEST group of people here CACKLING. There are so many apartments around here and I'm sure they are from this block. Why don't they have the decency to just go and cackling inside?
Being in the city, it's so hard to find quiet. I must be here to be close to school and I have no other choice but to live in this area. Every other neighborhood I've lived has been quiet. There are no blacks from where I originate from and there are minimal from the places I've temporarily stayed. It was always quiet and peaceful. IF there were to be noise, it didn't come from my neighbors.
Now, It's noisy MOST OF THE DAY. Mostly coming from people on the streets and not the cars going by. There is probably a total of 2 hours of silence when I'm home everyday. Even less during the weekends when there are street parties with the radio blasting from a car. I wake up 3 in the morning by some sort of fight almost every night. It's so frustrating. I don't want to be a racist and if I sound like one I'm sorry. This is just a rant and an observation that I must put out there... somewhere.
All I here is "N***** this. Are you serious? What are you sayin'? F*** YOU MAN! N***** please, AARRG."
WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATION IS THIS? WHY DO I HAVE TO BE BOTHERED BY THIS NONSENSE? WHY DO I HAVE TO COMPROMISE ALL THE TIME?!
Someone asked them to be quiet, and that didn't happen. There seems to be NO compromise with these neighbors.
All I want is respect. I respect everyone else's privacy and peace of mind. Please respect mine.
Why even ask that question if it's only going to cause more "drama" to African Americans. I'm African American. I'm not loud. I do very well in school. And I'm tired of all this jeer. If u hear black people talking loud, dint instantly think it's because they are. In my eyes, it mostly depends on who they are and who they want to be. And sometimes it could be their childhood. If they have been raised up yelling, they will tend to do that. But stereotyping only worsens the case. And if u are in that situation, u should take control of it or try. But don't be ignorant and become prejudice.
since i moved into my current house i never had a problem, now i have to move again due to loud blacks shouting / playing there black music loud / there kids kicking balls up fences in a 'no balls games' area. what does that tell you !
You don't have to be loud to show you're "opinionated" or "speaking your mind" - and being rude doesn't make you cool or "not being controlled by the white people" - it gets you even less respect and makes you look uneducated and rude.
Horrible parenting is the cause for any ignorant behavior, IMO. So if you are black, white, asian whatever and you are not a loud POS in a movie, restaurant, study area, library then it is because you were raised well. Call your Mom and Dad and thank them.
Have a nice day :)
I don't hate black people, nor white people. I myself happen to be full blooded Mexican.
The one thing that upsets me about the black race, is the ghetto-afied subculture. Speaking Ebonics, aggressive hand signs, loud whooping. it's almost as if you're black and you don't speak incorrectly " What be that?, who it is ? let me axe 'em, Awwe, nigga x 5" then you aren't socially acceptable as 'Black'... it's as if that person loses their 'blackness' and is looked at as some kind of dark skinned white guy.
The fuck is wrong with this new generation of Black people... Ghetto, thugged out, thinking the man is keeping him down while in some cases true, but in most it's them keeping each other down.
They demand retribution for slavery and the history of racism. That time is more NOW then ever before. There is financial aid, government funded programs and scholarship sources for people of color, even affirmative action.
Opportunity is there waiting, it's up to the individual to want it bad enough (get the fuck out there and get it). I don't know why they don't take advantage of programs other than welfare or food stamps. To be completely honest it's like they want some ancestral slavery back pay, and to reserve the right to talk as much shit and act as stupid, ignorant and unmannered at any time without being judge.
I'm not siding with white people either, a lot of them ….ALOT OF THEM are just as ignorant but in a different sense. Remarks with ' Black people should get the hell out of our country, who gave them the right to be here anyway '... well you brought them over ? didn't you? ...they act as if they fell on America, no one was here, and somehow black people, asian people, mexican people all just wandered over into 'their' backyard... impetuous thinking.
You want to know who have it the worst? Indian people. Black people cry about how hard slavery was, lynching’s to name calling... how about selective genocide? Village massacres... Living in peace at one with god's land, then being butchered on mass scales, pillaged, raped, stolen from again and again.
White people are the decedents of a lot of bad things that have happened in the world.
But so are blacks, browns, and asians.
There’s a lot more to the world than just what goes on mainstreet, the county, the state, the country..
(I know what it's like to be taken advantage of, be treated differently because of my skin color, been threatened or scared for my life because I looked different than the rally of another race before me. I've been on food stamps myself and know that road personally, yet after striving for more in life, I'm sitting comfortably on a 4 year degree, making 75k a year... started off with NOTHING :|. Instead of hanging out rolling blunts, shooting the shit and acting like a moronic thug on the corner, I was getting mine.)
I don't hate black people, nor white people. I myself happen to be full blooded Mexican.
The one thing that upsets me about the black race, is the ghetto-afied subculture. Speaking Ebonics, aggressive hand signs, loud whooping. it's almost as if you're black and you don't speak incorrectly " What be that?, who it is ? let me axe 'em, Awwe, nigga x 5" then you aren't socially acceptable as 'Black'... it's as if that person loses their 'blackness' and is looked at as some kind of dark skinned white guy.
The fuck is wrong with this new generation of Black people... Ghetto, thugged out, thinking the man is keeping him down while in some cases true, but in most it's them keeping each other down.
They demand retribution for slavery and the history of racism. That time is more NOW then ever before. There is financial aid, government funded programs and scholarship sources for people of color, even affirmative action.
Opportunity is there waiting, it's up to the individual to want it bad enough (get the fuck out there and get it). I don't know why they don't take advantage of programs other than welfare or food stamps. To be completely honest it's like they want some ancestral slavery back pay, and to reserve the right to talk as much shit and act as stupid, ignorant and unmannered at any time without being judge.
I'm not siding with white people either, a lot of them ….ALOT OF THEM are just as ignorant but in a different sense. Remarks with ' Black people should get the hell out of our country, who gave them the right to be here anyway '... well you brought them over ? didn't you? ...they act as if they fell on America, no one was here, and somehow black people, asian people, mexican people all just wandered over into 'their' backyard... impetuous thinking.
You want to know who have it the worst? Indian people. Black people cry about how hard slavery was, lynching’s to name calling... how about selective genocide? Village massacres... Living in peace at one with god's land, then being butchered on mass scales, pillaged, raped, stolen from again and again.
White people are the decedents of a lot of bad things that have happened in the world.
But so are blacks, browns, and asians.
There’s a lot more to the world than just what goes on mainstreet, the county, the state, the country..
(I know what it's like to be taken advantage of, be treated differently because of my skin color, been threatened or scared for my life because I looked different than the rally of another race before me. I've been on food stamps myself and know that road personally, yet after striving for more in life, I'm sitting comfortably on a 4 year degree, making 75k a year... started off with NOTHING :|. Instead of hanging out rolling blunts, shooting the shit and acting like a moronic thug on the corner, I was getting mine.)
I really thought all of the comments i read were interesting. Some people say that black people are loud because they, by culture and the anger they still feel about slavery, encourages them to be loud and pursue any freedom they can. I believe this is a pretty good explanation. I think that black people still have a right to feel bitter towards their enslavement even if it did happen over a century ago. I feel sick to my stomach when I think of the holacaust, which was also targeting a specific race and other "undesirable" traits. I'm not even jewish, but I realize that its completely awful to treat any person that way just because they were born a certain race. However, talking loudly does nothing to make up for the suffering their ancestors experienced.
Also, something I realized that no one has mentioned is that it isn't black people who talk loudly alot, its uneducated people. The educated black people I know do not shout about liek fools. But the ones who don't even know how to speak properly do. And redneck white people that don't know how to speak properly are really loud too. Educated people of any race have learned that listening to others, and therefore speaking quietly and maybe even less often, is not only considerate, but allows you to learn more from others.
Martin Luther King Jr. was very educated and knew his goals and how to acheive them practically. And in his speeches, I'm sure he got a little loud. But I think thats great because he had things to say that people needed to hear. But I think we can all agree that people who can't put simple sentences together probaby don't have many things to say that everyone needs to hear.
I also think its great to use the freedom that we have in America, but we have to be grateful for that freedom and not abuse it. Freedom was granted, not so people could use their freedom to override the comfort of others, but so that all could be free and live in harmony.
And I wanted to put it out there that calling black people black is not racist. Black people call white people white and it doesn't bother us. I think its weirdly formal for a black person to call me caucasian. I call myself white.
Anyway, its really not that black people are loud. Its that any uneducated person is more likely to be loud. Its sad because if they respected others more, they would gain more respect from others.
I am a white US citizen and pretty laid back about everything. I have travelled all over the world and lived for decades overseas.
The worst racists I have ever seen are North East Asians. In my experience the loudest laugh - ever - is the West Central African "belly laugh"... i mean when my African coworkers in Nigeria and Angola would start laughing like that we'd all break out smiling. so cool. yeah, I guess the africans were kinda loud... I remember some screaming back and forth one time, I asked what was up and the guys told me they were arguing about toothbrushes. oh.
I have stood in line outside at open air african markets behind tiny Pygmy Africans: mini-me. full sized adults 3 1/2 feet high but not deformed: perfect shaped. crazy!
don't know why people are the way they are, but I guess someone somewhere has a plan.
its all good: if something makes me stressed I do the "walk away".
i am not better then anybody, just luckier then most.
bye-o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The first black man poses the question "...Did we, the black folks of America, learn it [loudness] from them [whites]." Simple answer: of course not! I hardly ever see anyone talking on their cell phone with their "outside voice" in the library except for blacks...and I never see any blacks in the science library.lol
I agree with the blogger who said that even though many African Americans are not taught as children to be respectful in public but once they reach a certain age, or especially if they attend college, they should have some decency and respect for those around them. I am in college and there are very few if any blacks in most of my classes, except of course for a big lecture hall class that covers a gen ed. The few times when I am stuck in the back of the hall where many African Americans sit I know that I will have to put up with a lot of noise. All through class they have music from their cell phones and laptops playing and those with laptops are constantly on Facebook. It is impossible to concentrate with all these distractions surrounding me. Why do they even come to class if they don't want to learn. This class doesn't pertain to my major but I still don't want to be ignorant of the issues it covers.
Of course not all blacks are like this. My RA is very intelligent black man, but even he is loud. Not vocally loud, just the volume that he plays his music is much too loud for a dorm. We have quiet hours after 11pm and he is the only person on my floor who breaks quiet hours. He constantly has guests for an hour or two after quiet hours have begun and chooses to host them right outside his room, which is basically outside my room. He is a great guy but sometimes I just want to open my door and yell at him to be quiet. But of course I can't do this because he is the person I am supposed to call if someone is being loud. What irony.
I don't know what it is about black people that makes them feel the need to find ways to be loud.
As a side thought I was wondering why blacks are supposed to be referred to as African Americans. Maybe people should start to refer to me as a German American or European American. On second thought, just call me white.
see. this is why black people will never get cut any "real" slack. only slack they'll ever get is the patronizing one everyone gives them cuz they keep asking for it. i bet if they acted civilized, which would never happen, they'd probably have gotten reparations, more likeable acknowledgements, and so forth. and a black person will definately write something against this, "fo sho". it's a battle they think they'll win, which they do on the outside. but inside everyone is thinking the same thing. i've witnessed actually more racist black people than any other ethnicity. i'm sorry, but you let this thing grow into something uncontrollable and now you want to make demands? well, you'll probably get them, but you'll never win the hearts or minds of people with physical demands or forcing people to listen to your loudness. you can physically make someone do something, but everyone has a mind that cannot be changed so easily. think about that before you write your hate rebuttle. (which i know you will) lol. too funny. please include everything i've mentioned in this response if you are black and writing against this comment. lol.
black people are loud because they want you to know they are there. they want you to feel sorry for them and put them on a pedestal. they are, like a previous poster said, "the world's charity case".
Perfect example of a black racist response. It's ok to make fun of white people if you're black right? Keep clinging to the concept of slavery or mistreatment instead of doing anything beneficial for society. While you're at it, you can thank me for supporting the 99% of your race that collect a government check every month. It's not racism if its true. Have fun being a loud and obnoxious low life. Every time I walk by a group of you being loud and carrying on I'm o.k. with it because I know I'm contributing to society and you aren't. Waste of life.
I think that noise has a lot to do with culture and socioeconomic status. I live in a part of town with a lot of poor, uneducated African Americans, and it's loud. Loud talking, shouting, music, TV, you name it. The same goes for the Hispanic parts of town, so it's not just blacks. And my African neighbors are some of the quietest in the building, so black =/= noisy.
If you talk to someone who has lived in a slum/ghetto/hood, chances are they'll tell you it's loud. Regardless of ethnicity. So I can't come up with a simple answer. Noise has something to do with culture and education and income. I'm sure a sociologist could expound on this.
I'm a 20 year old female Caucasian. I go to school in Memphis, TN and I am 1 of 2 Caucasian people in my class of 17 students. Yes, I get annoyed when I'm trying to watch a movie and there's an African-American yelling at the screen for no apparent reason. I also get annoyed when there's a group of 16 year old Caucasian teenagers in the back row giggling and talking on their phones. My point is, at some point in our lives somebody gets on our nerves. We can chalk it up to racial stereotypes, or we can realize that nobody's going to get along with everyone. Yes, I cringe when I hear Lil' Wayne loud and clear from 2 blocks away, I get very offensed when someone calls me a "white girl" after I make a point to say African-American, and I absolutely can't stand when I get glared out for locking my doors at the same time there's an African American in a 20-foot radius (it's a tough neighborhood). But I also wish Brad Pitt and Miley Cyrus would fall off the face of the planet. This whole putting emphasis on a person's race is only going to ensure the issue will always be there. No race is better than the other, no race is superior to another. Let it go.
@ Aquariangirl08
It is not a African culture thing.
Have any of you watched documentaries of Africans that have came to America to live a better life?
One that specifically comes to mind was the documentary of Sudan. These guys are more respectful, professional, and NOT loud as anyone I've ever seen.
They're very nice people and are NOT loud. Working 24/7 and sending every cent possible to their families back home. VERY VERY sweet people.
Personally, I think when they see American black people being loud and disrespectful. Doing things 'just because they can', I'm sure it makes them dissapointed.
So don't say it's a African culture thing. It's not. And REAL<-- Africans would give anything to trade places and I bet my leg that they would instantly be very respected in this country for how hard working and decent they are.
@m6moore
... Um, why are you commenting then if you're from the Caribbean? You have no place to comment on black people in America.
Also, it's BLACK. Yeah you're not literally black but white people aren't literally white neither. You don't hear whites demanding to be called English Americans do you? Do you have Mexicans demanding to be called Latin Americans?
Demanding to be called African Americans is just separating yourself. Why the fuck would you want to do that?
It's very peculiar. There was horrible segregation of colors, Blacks AND whites fought it, finally beat it after a lot of struggle and what happens after a generation or two? Black people start trying to SEPARATE themselves!
What the hell are you thinking?
MLK would be disappointed of the state of black culture today.
Oh and people saying 'oh its our culture'. Yeah well the German culture at one point in time horribly discriminated against Jews but that doesn't mean its ok.
I find that uneducated, lower class whites and blacks are loud. It has nothing to do with race, more so with class. I know plenty of educated middle and upper class whites and blacks that act appropriately and are not loud, rude and disrespectful.
This whole thing is just sad. This is obviously a blog written with some sense of humor. That said, the truth is that people just seem to assume that other's are loud due to characteristics (like race) that have nothing to do with that behavior. I'm seen plenty of loud obnoxious fools of all races. The real problem is that everyone has become so stupid and self-absorbed that they don't think about the fact that their rights end where someone else's begin. If you are black, white, red, purple, etc., please shut up at the library and the movies and don't make rude gestures and scream so much that you disrupt others in public places. And if you can manage to put yourself in someone else's shoes enough to be polite, then pass that on. It's true that we all need to learn to be better to one another in general in this crazy world.
well i would like to let you all know that subject has a lot of sense in it as coming from both ethnic groups.i am a south African living in my home country and just wanted to KNOW what other people have to say about this subject.because i have found out for REAL as to why they talk so loud especially right in front of each other,It is because they think if you talk softly or what we call normal volume to someone else another would guess that they would be talking Ill about you.SO they talk loud with a proper excuse here in south Africa.I just think its a universal thing to that its ok to BE loud so as to gain attention of whatever sort.so now we KNOW WHY THEY TALK LOUD TO ONE ANOTHER.but you know it still stumps me as to why they talk so loud all the time even when the road is empty like this morning i got woken up by this black girl talking off the top her lungs to a car guard and thought to myself what is wrong with black people in general (i just think its how they were raised at home tells me a lot about how they were raised bearing in mind that i only associate myself with people who are mannered enough and able enough to respect other peoples space.And yes i will say this. the only people here in this part of my neighborhood that make a fucking noise are the blacks of whatever background Fighting Screaming arguing and yes i do understand some of the many languages here in my country and speak three African languages.and another thing is i truthfully will say that none of the whites or the colored people cause shit in or around the hood ONLY BLACK PEOPLE!!.THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE BLACKS HERE HAVE LEARNT FROM THE AMERICANS ABOUT BEING BAD ASS AND ALL THAT GANGSTER SHIT AND THAT IS HOW IT WILL STAY.and as i have discovered that by asking them to quiet down they get very defensive and swear at me,,,i dont take it lying down or being scared i voice my opinion to their faces quietly at the "correct" volume.in this day and age they truthfully have got no respect for others that are not black.
one last comment to black americans:its not ok to rub your american Black culture into everyone who is not like you.nobody actually gives a dam about what it meens to be black here in south africa they would be treated with much respect if they learned some ethics.I am a colord man and proud of how my mom raised me and thank god that i am not stupid like most peolpe
I agree. Walking down the hall at school, it seems all the ignorant my-people-were-slaves blacks have to scream and shout when the talk. And when they fond something funny, they have to jump around and wave their arms and, "OH LAWD, OH LAWD!" I've noticed something, though. There are black people and then there are uneducated, uncivilized negros who want to say, "YOU RACIST, WHITE BOY!" I have no problem with black people, some of my beat friends are black. But the negros grow up thinking white people OWE them something, thinking there better than everyone. I don't agree with the statement that there are still struggles for african Americans. EVERY race in this country — in this entire world — struggles. White people, Hispanic people, Asian people, everyone.
This is completely off the subject, but I wanted to share two encounters I've had. One with a black person and one with a Negro. On one occasion, a very intelligent black guy knocked my books out of my hands when he accidentally walked into me one day. He apologized multiple times and picked up everything for me and even carried my books to class for me.
Then there was a time when a whole group of negros were standing in a doorway. I was trying to get through, and I stood there, politely saying, "Excuse me," for a while. Finally I got fed up and decided to push my way through. There was also a black guy coming through. He looked at me and screamed, "AW HELL NAWH, MOVE OUT THA MUTHA F*CKIN' WAY!"
I stood there and said, "Excuse me? Please don't talk to me that way."
He says, "I WASN'T TALKIN' TO YOU B*TCH. YOU WHITE. YOU DON'T TELL ME HOW I CAN AND CAN'T TALK. DAMN, B*TCH. IMA HAFTA SLAP YO ASS OUT THA WAY?!"
I said, "What's your name, dude?"
"MY NAME SUCK MY BIG ASS BLACK D*CK, WHITE B*TCH."
By this time I was inconsolably pissed. I was on the veer of an anxiety attack. So I pushed past him and said, without thinking, "JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN TALK TO ME ANY WAY YOU WANT. IM NOT GONNA STAND THERE AND TAKE IT. IM NOT YOUR AVERAGE WHITE B*TCH. HIT ME AND I'LL KICK YOUR BLACK ASS." I stormed off, breathing hard, because I was now having an anxiety attack and a black girl said, "HELL NAWH, I OWN KNOW WHO YOU THANK YOU TALKIN TO!"
"I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU! SO GET OFF MY NUTS." I lost my cool, admittedly. But I went to an all black school for three years. I'd had enough. Black people struggling? HA. Because they're lazy an think that the government owes them.
I agree. Walking down the hall at school, it seems all the ignorant my-people-were-slaves blacks have to scream and shout when the talk. And when they fond something funny, they have to jump around and wave their arms and, "OH LAWD, OH LAWD!" I've noticed something, though. There are black people and then there are uneducated, uncivilized negros who want to say, "YOU RACIST, WHITE BOY!" I have no problem with black people, some of my beat friends are black. But the negros grow up thinking white people OWE them something, thinking there better than everyone. I don't agree with the statement that there are still struggles for african Americans. EVERY race in this country — in this entire world — struggles. White people, Hispanic people, Asian people, everyone.
This is completely off the subject, but I wanted to share two encounters I've had. One with a black person and one with a Negro. On one occasion, a very intelligent black guy knocked my books out of my hands when he accidentally walked into me one day. He apologized multiple times and picked up everything for me and even carried my books to class for me.
Then there was a time when a whole group of negros were standing in a doorway. I was trying to get through, and I stood there, politely saying, "Excuse me," for a while. Finally I got fed up and decided to push my way through. There was also a black guy coming through. He looked at me and screamed, "AW HELL NAWH, MOVE OUT THA MUTHA F*CKIN' WAY!"
I stood there and said, "Excuse me? Please don't talk to me that way."
He says, "I WASN'T TALKIN' TO YOU B*TCH. YOU WHITE. YOU DON'T TELL ME HOW I CAN AND CAN'T TALK. DAMN, B*TCH. IMA HAFTA SLAP YO ASS OUT THA WAY?!"
I said, "What's your name, dude?"
"MY NAME SUCK MY BIG ASS BLACK D*CK, WHITE B*TCH."
By this time I was inconsolably pissed. I was on the veer of an anxiety attack. So I pushed past him and said, without thinking, "JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN TALK TO ME ANY WAY YOU WANT. IM NOT GONNA STAND THERE AND TAKE IT. IM NOT YOUR AVERAGE WHITE B*TCH. HIT ME AND I'LL KICK YOUR BLACK ASS." I stormed off, breathing hard, because I was now having an anxiety attack and a black girl said, "HELL NAWH, I OWN KNOW WHO YOU THANK YOU TALKIN TO!"
"I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU! SO GET OFF MY NUTS." I lost my cool, admittedly. But I went to an all black school for three years. I'd had enough. Black people struggling? HA. Because they're lazy an think that the government owes them.
I love how the black people get on here and post that the other races commenting on here are ignorant... OPEN YOUR EYES this topic is mainly about your race if you cant see that black people are louder in generall than other races than you arent looking very hard. i cant believe that some people would think that others are ignorant just because the truth blows up in there face. look at the ghettos in america look at the poor places tell me what the main race is. black people have been able to get jobs for a long time now but still refuse to do so . if you think you can just take my money that i work for so that you can sit on your fat lazy ASS all day and eat your flaming hot cheetos your so wrong. why dont you go out where some decent clothes pull your pants up speak proper english and then yes maybe you will then get a job and stop gathering in the halls in the school in a group dont you think people are trying to walk?!?
It makes me sad to see all the racist comments on here from fellow white people. I can only hope they come from ignorance and not outright racism. I see loud people of all types; black, white, Hispanic. If you're at work or at a library and someone is loud, why not just politely ask them to tone it down a notch? If you briefly pass a Loud group of people on the sidewalk why do you even care?
As far as the comments about black people "always bringing up slavery", I don't can't even think when a black person has even brought it up to me or mentioning it.
Let's be real people, African Americans are typically more bold and loud. At the same time whites are typically weak, easily intimidated, and down right scared. Thats not all of either race, just some. Most of these comments are based on one experience with a black person or something seen from afar such as tv. This is where stereotypes get out of hand because you use them to make generalizations about an entire race. This entire forum shows the differences between blacks and whites. Most of these anonymous posts are obviously entered by whites. However most blacks on here aren't afraid to show their name and own up to their comments.
I live in flint and it gets irritating. To be fucking honest, what culture hasnt gotten fucked over? African americans wernt the only slaves. Im native american and this is basically my land and I would never run around disrespecting other peoples space or giving them headaches. I have respect!
I honestly think that black people are loud and inconsiderate of others because they do have a MISPLACED PRIDE.
very rarely you'll meet a humble black person.
they tend to get violent quite easily.
it amazes me how i clicked on this thread and was reading comments all the way from 2008, and pople are STILL commenting! man, this must be a very popular issue among the american communities. but i must say, that i am black; i don't act black,don't really have any black friends, dont listen to hiphop music(only pop and rock n roll)...basically, i'm not the average black person that you'd normally see. but i must admit, that i AM loud. and it's not because i want to be. i try my HARDEST to lower my voice because people complain about it all the time, but i just can't. and when i try to atleast whisper, it hurts my throat. so the reason for me visiting this thread is to squash the confusion: most black people are naturally loud. it's probably genetics, because everyone in my family nearly has the same kind of voice. another reason why we're so loud is because sometimes, we get excited, and our outside voices start kicking in. for instance, if i see a friend i haven't seen in years, of cours i'm gonna be excited and loud and shout with joy when i see him/her.
and the only black people that i've read about through some of these annonymouse commentors are probably looking at the ignorant ghetto ones who have no sense. if you guys start to actually open your eyes, theres a LOT of civilized black peole all around. so don't use one bad experience that you've had with a black person, change how you feel about all of them. because that makes YOU the ignorant/weak one who is starting a stereotype
and when you hear a black person say "that's just how we are", it really is...how we are. it's a natural reaction that we get. we like to live it up.
@Brittany,
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read. I am also black. I am not loud at all. I can whisper and it doesn't hurt my throat. I can even thing of an anatomical reason your assertion might be accurate.
I wish I could explain why some black people choose to be so loud. I find it annoying. My students are loud. They don't understand the concept of inside voices, but we are learning. I do want them to have the ability to assimilate in a variety of setting so that their opportunities are not limited.
I do think it is a degree of entitlement and lack of respect. Black people I believe have taken the history of slavery and racism and use it as an excuse to disregard others.
However, as I tell my students if you want to be respected you must respect others. So things are just a matter of common decency.
Even as black people with a history of oppression, we must remember that our rights stop where someone else's begins. You can have a conversation and everyone in the restuarant, movies, etc doesn't have to hear it.
I don't think our forefathers marched, were beaten, hung, jailed, and killed for your right to be loud and obnoxious.
Blame the parents for passing on the habits and behaviors!Its too late for the kids that dont know any better and the parents only know what they were taught. Its not culture, its not race, its demographics! Its all true about the loudness but it does'nt apply to every african american just like the wiggers, and asian wannabe gangstas, its upbringing and lack of parenting and no one is to blame but the parents that failed their kids!
To be frank, I've noticed the same thing. I have talked on my cell phone in a library, but not loud and tried to move away from people. I remember seeing an African American girl talking loud on her phone as if it didn't matter she was in a library,and I have experienced that thing where young ones are loud in a movie theater. It's inappropriate. And this one woman got arrested recently on Amtrak for talking for 16 hours in a quiet car. How consider is that? And, yes, I have seen very loud African Americans at the student union in contrast to all the other ethnic groups including people from Africa. The majority of black people are not like that, but disproportionately it appears they are very loud without considering other people being there. It's cultural, I suppose, and not the end of the world, but people should respect public spaces more.
I disagree with the comment that Africans are loud. It depends on the context. I saw people from Senegal and the Sudan, and they were not loud in public places where it would annoy people such as in a restaurant or library. It's one thing to be loud in a party area where there are night clubs. That's 100% appropriate. It's not a race thing, but a sub-culture of some African Americans. And there are whites like that. It's not about poverty. I see middle class African Americans do that. It is cultural, and in American society making lots of noise in a restaurant or library or study area would be viewed as unacceptable, but for some people with certain cultural views it would be okay. I was in many countries and in most countries being very loud in a restaurant or movie theater is not appropriate including in Africa.
Lower class American blacks are loud.
Blacks from wealthier backgrounds, and from other countries, are usually not as loud.
Are lower class white people loud? Maybe it's an economic thing?
lol, this is full of shit, you are using the term we and them its not like the white people are ruling the world, im white, i have lots of black friends, i yell all the time and talk shit all the time, its not about beeing black, its the way youre raised, the people you hang with and shit....
- me :D
Blacks from African countries are better than Black Americans!!
OK, Dennis, that was pretty funny! Your unapologetic lead was particularly good. I'll be back later to read more - here's hoping there's more wit where this came from.
Because they're inconsiderate assholes and their parents never taught them that there are appropriate volume levels for different situations and locations.
Ok I wasn't going to say anything but some of you forced my hand...ok yea some of us can be loud, matter of fact everyone can be loud! Some of you all act like you have been quiet all of your lives GET REAL! I've had some white friends who are louder than me especially when alcohol is involved and really don't care. Now I will admit a lot of times black people do get loud but you have to think about where you are and how they were raised, everyone wasn't raised being told "use your inside voice Jimmy". Some familes were raised with everyone in their house yelling at each other and it just went with them everywhere and no one told them to quiet down. Yea I will agree that talking during the movies can bee very irritating, so why don't you kindly ask them to quiet down instead of being scary and think u gonna get beat down! Sheesh it isn't hard. And to ole buddy that was study, instead of sitting there struggling to concentrate why don't u SPEAK UP! Nobody is a mind reader they might not have been paying attention to you! Ya'll sitting here acting like some scary people can't say anything SPEAK UP! Sheesh....AND THATS REAL!
Hm. Yes. I agree, it's seemingly lower-class African Americans that feel the need to trapse around letting every thought escape through their mouth. Usually hollering at everyone that walks by (by the way, doing said hollering will not get you a woman. no, i will not give you my phone number, and i'm not your "boo" or "lil mama") And @BoosieBoo -- yes, we could politely ask them to tone it down a bit but I can guarantee you at least 8 times out of 10 we'd be called a "racist" and probably end up in a fight. Merely for asking for common courtesy.
Ohhh " you forced me to say it"... I'll tell you what's real! We don't get along and we probably NEVER will. The majority of african americans will never shut the hell up. Common courtesy isn't common to them, Simple as that.
Sure, they CAN because it's America and all that. But just because they can doesn't mean that it's a good idea. In fact, it perpetuates the stereotype that black people get pissed off when others acknowledge: which is to say, by being loud and obnoxious, they are acting like NIGGERS! I mean, that's the same as white trash acting white trashy. You will be treated like what you act like. So, if you are acting like a nigger, you will be treated like you belong in the cotton field. If you act respectable, you will be treated as a respectable black citizen. :-)
Well I know this is a pretty old blog, but anyways, here goes. I am a white male from Texas. I grew up in East Texas where there is an even mix of the Black and White (where I'm from anyways). Most, if not all of the African Americans I grew up with were totally respectful and nice and just average people like everyone else. When I moved to more urban areas this was not the case. I think that a lot of it has to do with environment. they are at times from poorer neighborhoods and unfortunately have less opportunity for education. I believe this is probably a failure by society more than African Americans. I do however believe that if an individual wants to get out of a certain place and better themselves it's totally possible. I would agree however that it would be harder for someone who's from south Dallas than someone from Highland Park (rich Dallas hood)to have certain opportunities.
Finally I would like to conclude that if there are any victims in this phenomenon, I believe it would be the educated black man who is constantly given a bad rap for all the other folks that go on The Maury Show (you know the type). It's kind of like how people from the North think that all people from Texas are idiots and still ride horses etc.
I don't understand how people can leave such ugly comments about a race. ALL races have the same negative attributes as the next. Why focus on the negative things, when there are so many positive things in life to appreciate. To me races mean nothing, because we're all human. If ANYONE is being loud in a quiet library, isn't it simple enough to move to somewhere else? I respect the author's opinion and everyone else's but a lot I don't agree with. Someday hopefully we live in a world where everyone opens their eyes...
And who cares about what happened in history, it happened and it's over. When is it time for everyone to learn about it and move on?
Im black and i notice that blacks are very loud sometime. Im not loud and i feel the same way that whites feel like tone it down but i dont say it because they have the right to express them selves however they want wherever they want to its their right as americans i also notice whites are timid by black boldness as a white american if you tell blacks to STFU u can cuz if a black man felt that way he would say it. white beleive that becausse there uncomfortable that the world should accomadate moment of truth people can care less how proper you feel or if you dont like it do something or push on but as newton clearly explained ever action has a equal and opposite reaction this gos for blacks and white cuz black man you have to get a job from the white man what you do affects others images whites u have to live with us and you cant war against us so you liable to get F up peace and apologies for the bluntness and lack of grammar to lazy to edit
Blacks are loud because they feel the need to attract attention and cause other groups of people to get frustrated so they can be like what you gettin frustrated about just to try to prove their a badass but niggers aren't they just talk and when they fight they honestly dont know a thing
Black people are loud 99% of the time it is because most of them lack respect. They all just need to stop being loud and ignorant. Just learn respect dumb ass's!!!!!!"
That article did a really poor job of arguing its point. Maybe my view is skewed by my open racism but i did not find it convincing. It mainly said "blacks do it because they can" which is an awful reason. Everyone is allowed to be loud but its rude to be loud if it puts other people out. Also, white people that get drunk at a restaurant and talk loudly piss me off as well, but i feel like it is a much bigger part of black culture.
I have to agree with some of the comments, although I can be loud myself. However, I am loud in certain situations, I am loud when I am angry, loud when I laugh, and loud at games. I have to, however, disagree with the "inability to quietly reflect". Cognitive function, does in some ways affect the discipline of "intrapersonal conversation", but having been reared in the inner city, I find that is the environment that inspires such behaviour. I am a member of the African Diaspora, and I was reared to behave accordingly. That is, if I am at a meeting you are to be professional, take notes, et cetera. A lot of my mannerisms, behaviour was instilled and self-taught at an early age. Moreover, there are ignorant, brash, loud people in every culture. And confronting a ignorant black person solicits a physical altercation at times, which is why I am in "defense mode" around the lot. That, and the fact that I am always getting picked on for being different -my mixed ancestry. I love the comments, because the large number of you bashing the afro-diaspora have allowed your ignorance to reflect through your lack of critical thinking.
What a stupid post. There are no "Black people" or "white people" People who talk loud are simply untrained. Mainly they did not have the parental guidance on how to behave in public
This has nothing to do with color. If many so called "blacks" speak loud it is because they were not taught that it is not proper. All children talk too loud until a parent tells them it is wrong.
This has nothing to do with a skin color and everything to do with manners from parents
I live in a college dorm. There are five other rooms in my hall. Each room houses two students. In one of the five rooms, there are two black students. Thanks to these guys, I am able to hear blasting rap music all the time. No other rooms in the hall have black students. No other rooms in the hall have loud music.
Why the fuck do they have to do that? Seriously?
I actually make a conscious effort to take my mindset away from stereotypical racism, but this shit makes it very difficult for me.
The People Who Believe "Black" People Are All Loud and Ignorant Are The True Ignorant Ones , Nowhere Does It Say ANYWHERE That Being a certain color or sex makes you act a certain way. People Are Loud That Are From All Types Of Different Back rounds and to think people would want to pin point "blacks" is just pure childish hatred and truly need to grow up. Young Kids From Middle School To College are known to be loud and enthusiastic. Im Sure When You Guys Were young you did not just walk around silent all day with your head down and on top of all this there is no such thing as just a "black" person or any other race at that people are mixed with bunches of different things so to pin point and give them only one name "black","white"etc. your just plain DUMB NO GOOD,NO LIFE,CHILDISH ASSHOLES !
The account above me is more racist than the one I'm about to write right now.
First off, I found this site because I was testing my new Yahoo account on Yahoo answers and this was the first question I could think to ask.
Anyway, people ask this question and found the rant on this blog because it's a wide occurrence and happens within this specific social group moreso than others...well, for sober people anyway. I would probably contribute it to black people thinking that all white people are scared of them so they could do whatever the hell they want and also because white people are afraid of the wind blowing, which means they're afraid of everything because they're pussies. The only time I see white people man up is when they're drunk and sometimes it's even hard to get them to grow some nuts then.
One group I sincerely loathe are the jumpy teenage girls. They never shut the fuck up and chill the hell out. It's like they're constantly on adderall. Oh wait, they probably all are considering 65% of Americans are on Rx drugs.
Anyway, back to black people. I am not racist but I will be racist if someone gives in to a retarded racial stereotype. Everyone really gets offended too easily these days and I bet you five bucks the post above me is from a white person who's feeling race guilt yet somehow found this site from NOT asking google why black people are so loud.
I know that a lot of these statements are stereotypical but let's face it, stereotypes occur for a reason. 99.9% of black people that I have encountered are loud, obnoxious and rude. I'm not racist I only state what I observe or what happens to me. During school, in the mall, and the hospital etc etc .. When I pass by some black people they are being very loud and rude. Where I work I always have issues with black customers.. Coincidence I don't think so.
Basically, black people ( a majority of them) love to prove societys stereotypes of theirs correct, just saying.
I grew up in GA and have lived in milwaukee for the past 12 years. on a side note i have seen more accepted racism here (including reverse racism) than i had ever experienced in my home state. i believe that the reason for this is upbringing. i grew up in the bible belt, and alot of ppl were practicing christians, most of the black ppl i came in contact with, or worked with were sweet, southern, classy, and well mannered. then i came up here to milwaukee and everything was about race. a white guy was beat up on a bus by a group of black youth, but it wasn't reported as a hate crime. I myself was cornered by 2 black women in a shoe store who belittled me and coaxed me into a fight simply because my cell phone's ringtone was Lil Mama's "lip gloss". yeah i was scared and of course i held my ground and walked away without stooping to their blatant racist level. (and you can bet i made sure to change my cell's ringtone to a more boring alert so i can avoid that in the future) but coming from the south and getting a lot of comments directed at my intellgence, ppl hear my accent and assume that i am an uneducated, bible thumping racist, but i understand why they feel that way because when i am in the south visiting and i cross paths with a gun rack, monster truck driving red neck i just hang my head and sigh... it isn't their skin color that makes them obnoxious annoying rednecks it is their lifestyle! and the same applies for all types and so when i see an annoyingly loud, rude, reverse racist black person i know that it is not their skin color that makes them act that way it is their upbringing. they need good values set forth for them as a child, they need both parents in the household to show them right from wrong, and at the very least they need to look around them and say "no, i am not going to be 'ghetto' I'am going to get an education and make something of myself."
Oh my gosh! You guys all sound like a bunch of ignorant racists! Many of you have no idea what you're talking about at all, and many of the comments that have been made are extremely offensive! Not all black people are loud! Many of them, even in groups, speak so softly that they can barely be heard by their peers. So much so that entire classrooms go silent just so that that one person's voice can be heard! Some people are loud in groups because they are simply enjoying one another's company. Think about this, if you were around someone that you DIDN'T like, how much would you talk? And if instead, you were with your bestfriend, how much would you talk then? Black people are not loud to intimidate those around them, nor are they loud to prove ridiculous stereotypes right. Those who actually are loud, are only loud to express their emotions, which sometimes become elated when they are in groups with those whom they get along with. Sheesh! If you're just going to be a bunch of racist pricks, why did you even comment?
Oh and @ that one guy who thinks, "Blacks are loud because every thought that comes into their heads comes out their mouths. They lack the complexity of brain function that is requisite to engage in quiet reflection." You're the most racist prick of them all! I bet you've never even come in contact with an educated black person!
Hi Everyone,
First of all, God (aka) JESUS is a god of love and sees no Color. I am not racist by any means. I think everyone in their own ways are predjudice against certain behaviors. If your going to be offended by a question, I suggest not entering the blog. I see people accusing others of being racist, when they are simply voicing their own opinion from what they have encountered. On the contrary, there are some on here being rude and unjustly. In my opinion, to answer this question, I'd most definitly say black people as a whole are much louder than any other race. NOT ALL, but a majority. If your black and not loud, thats good. I've had tons of black friends that were more quiet than me. But, as a whole culture, I think they are louder. Is this a bad thing? It can be when you are disturbing others. Black people are most definitly more out spoken and tend to be ready to fight anywhere infront of anyone. This causes a disturbance. Again if your not like this, dont get offended, carry on about your day, because noones singling you out. Hey, also just so you will see I am not being a racist pig, at my old job, 80% of my friends were black!!!!! I love black peoples funny attitudes, when they are nice, but not loud obnoxious rudeness at stores and malls and resturants. Of course this isn't exceptable for any race. People look for an excuse to be angry!!! We are all going to be put in some type of category based on the way we live our lives. For instance, I lost alot of weight and got put in a category of a drug user. LOl I do not use drugs, but I will forever be put in that category because I looked a lil skinny. I have been in alot of relationships and that put me in a bad category of being a whore or a slut or whatever you want to call it. When in fact, I was abused as a child and at age 33 am just seeking help for that. Now realizing unresolved anger steming from childhood trauma has caused many failing relationships. So see I will forever be put in that bad category due to what people see on the outside and how I've lived my life!!! I expect that out of mankind. But, I dont get mad about it. If I have the chance I show whoever it is the true me. Back to the question posted above, this could have very well been a question of, Why are most white people spineless and dont defend themselves. LOl as bad as it sounds, from what Ive seen white people are alot less likely to defend them selves in an intimidating situation. I'll be the first to answer that. I'd say I'm pretty quiet and hate conflict unless you really tick me off and I have to be extremely careful with how I react due to my temper. It's like this if you get in an altercation with a black person 9 times out of 10, they will be ready to sparr so get ready. No offense but its usally more than one at that. Brotherhood!!!! Or sisterhood!!!! Hey thats cool, hope my friends got my back... In a prior post someone said, that posting this question was like saying why does all white people live in trailors and are called white trash? Lol think about what they said!! They in around about way admitted their thoughts on who monopilizes trailor parks.. So see without saying, that person just made an accusation, or else they'd use something different. people people people .. Every culture has something they are known for. Correct? Correct!!!!!! Also a lil touch on slavery, that is often brought up. We all know what happened to blacks back in the day. Slavery,segregation and all. But, If you do your research all ethnicities were enslaved at sometime or another. Blacks sold blacks as well. Joseph in the bible was sold into slavery. Do the research and you may feel better. This is no longer a issue, so why fret? The world has enough problems. What about the millions of jews hitler killed? Ya know, thats part of history as well. God knows what he's doing. Hatred is not of god either. Have a blessed day!
"Deal with it"
Deal with it? Sure, I dealt with it. I had some black people come into our business several times. Once they wanted to pick a fist fight with our other customers. The staff calmed everyone down, we overlooked it. They come in again the next few weeks. Every time they are complaining about something, using foul language, being loud. Every other word is f**k this and that and sh*t, etc. Small children are around listening to this. These women would bring in friends that would yell at us if we tried to tell them to be quiet or if they wanted some of the ticket written off for whatever reason. Well, I had enough and the last time they brought a white girl in with them (just as loud and obnoxious as they were). She got in my face yelling at me too. I'm sick of it. They showed up again the next week. I refused service. They can go to a bar and get drunk. They're not going to get drunk in my place and chase off our regulars. I'm done with them. It's not because they're black. Remember one was white. Also there was a black lady waiting on her order and she was nice to me and I was extra nice back. That's the customer I want. Not bitches that think they can verbally smack us around and yell at us hanging over the counter threatening us. Enjoy your permaban ladies!!!
Niggers will be niggers fuck em
It is far more simple then one might think. You are loud when you want to be noticed for whatever reason. It is basic human nature if you are black, white, yellow or green for that matter. It much the same thing when people go out and buy a Viper for example. They want to be noticed. I am an old white guy and I have seen just as many loud white people and I have black people in my 67 years. If a group of folks are having fun together the volume will go up. Let it be!!
And the point of your sloppy story is?
I noticed over the years that not only are they loud but they all too often explode and punch people over the tiniest thing. Though there are some people you can call "white niggers" like from Massachusetts that do the same thing. They'll even stomp on your head and try to kill you over stuff that normal people would simply brush off in life. I live up in Maine and my poor state is now being flooded with blacks and white-niggers from Mass. These people are dangerous, scary, and terrifying. Even the nice ones can turn on your in an instant if the conditions are right. Some of them can go from being sweet and nice acting one minute to stabbing you the next, punching your chest in, or trying to kick your teeth out. And they don't fight fair either they will all pile on you like a bunch of angry apes. Not sure if it's breeding (you know genetics) but a lot of the white-niggers from Mass are like that too. Now the crime rate in my state is sky rocketing as they bring their drugs, crime, and mooching ways up with them.
I am a white woman engaged to a black man, well maybe not after today. My fiance, has some good qualities and CAN act very educated. On the other hand, when he is talking to family or a past friend, he talks like he is back on the streets of , using the "n" work and cussing. We live in an extremely small town that probably has less than 50 black people. Everyone here is either an alcoholic or a drug addict and they all want to hang out together. Don't get me wrong, they have white friends, but they are alcoholics and drug addicts as well. Then there is my fiance's family. His father has a prominent position and conducts himself accordingly. For the most part, the others of his fathers generation do as well. However, my fiance's sister is as ignorant as they come. She only visits us every few years, at our expense because she has never worked. As soon as she arrived in town last night, she started drinking. When I got home, she was inebriated. This morning, before I could get out of bed, inebriated. I give my fiance, her and her grandson a ride somewhere and for absolutely no reason other than she was drunk, started telling her grandson that she would beat his mf butt. She called him every name in the book. This was when my fiance had left the car for a moment. When he returns, I asked her not to use that language in my prescence and that the grandson didn't do anything to deserve her reaction. She immediately lunged from the back seat and wanted to rip me apart, called me a white b%*@$, explicative, explicative. We were in a very public place and I am surprised when she jumped out of the car and she continued her rant that the police weren't called. She certainly looked as ignorant as ever.
She of course has multiple children who act the same way. They have all landed themselved in jail frequently.
I have been around this family for 12 years and nothing changes. His sister had her first child at 12 and dropped out of school. My fiance tends to act like whomever he is around and I don't understand it. Thank God he doesn't get quite as ignorant as his sister but the potential is there.
2 out of the 3 times that she has been to our house, she has left in a squad car. And how ironic, she calls the police but they immediately see she is the problem and remove her.
We have also had the police at our house with his other family members because they brought a bunch of strippers to our house in the middle of the night. Not only are his family members married, but they didn't even know these women. When the whores told me they wouldn't leave, I called the police. My fiance's cousin threatened to get his gun out on me and the police.
I am apauled by all of this behaviour. Growing up, I never heard mention of alcohol, except for an occasional beer. I never heard mention of drugs unless it was Nancy Reagan saying "just say no". I never heard a swear word and was certainly never called one. I try to give the benefit of the doubt and consider that these people have little education. But then I see plenty of people, black, white or other who educate themselves and make something out of nothing.
Call me a racist if you will, I don't understand the ignorance, the cussing, the loudness, the rudeness. AND YES, I HAVE BEEN AROUND IT LONG ENOUGH TO SAY WHAT I AM SAYING.
Black peopl are loud cause they are niggers plain and simple
Blacks quickly make their excuses for their bad behavior. And it's usually about their nature. "We speak loud cause that's the way we're made". Sounds about like gays. "We're fags because that's the way we're made".
It's gotten old to hear the excuses from the abnormal groups of people. They show no respect for the norms of society or time tested wisdom. They only believe in doing whatever the fuck they feel like doing. They self indulge. Blacks. Gays. All minorities. We need to keep them in the minority. Else imagine just how sickening the world will become.
Because they are all animals. It's as simple as that. They still haven't caught up to other races in the game of evolution.
If you were born in Africa, and move to America, you're an African American, could be any color. If you're black, born in America, you're just regular American, and after that, black, white, whatever. How many Africans are white? PLENTY! And if they move to the states? You have a white African American. The whole African American label doesn't work, it's ridiculous.
More on topic, I notice many black people in public are quite loud. I can hear some from blocks away. It's annoying, very annoying. I've met some who do not behave this way, I think it's part of certain upbringing. However, I've observed many black folks who seem to love to present themselves as ingnorant, loud, stupid and obnoxious. I've noticed similar behavior among white people, latinos, asians, but far, far less.
Are all black people loud? No. Are MANY? Yes!
I love white people!
Why are there so many comparisons to white people? Thats really lame, and insecure. Must be pretty tight in your mind if thats all you can make comparisons too. Oh and, often black people are loud. Its a clear observation, and its really tacky.
At this moment I'm sitting in a small computer lab. I brought my headphones because I like to listen to music on the computer. However, I may as well not even bother trying to listen to music because the guy next to me is listening to music on his computer too. However, he's not using headphones. Therefore, everyone in the room, including I (with or without my headphones), can hear his loud music.
I've been coming to this computer lab for weeks now, and this happens regularly. People listen to music on the computer whether they have headphones or not.
Yes, all of the people in the room are black, but so am I. I'm far away from home (home is Michigan) and I'm visiting the east coast (Baltimore, Maryland).
I can say that Rudeness is taught. If you come from an environment that promotes and tolerates rudeness, then it should shock no one that you too, will grow up being rude. In fact, you'll be rude, and not even know it. That's what I'm dealing with right now.
Over the course of a few weeks, I've gotten to know the guy who's playing the music, a little bit. He seems like a decent guy. But he has no manners when it comes to this sort of thing. Not many people, around here, do.
I grew up in a small farming community, away from violence, crime, and rudeness. If you were raised in the household that I came from, you know that being quiet in a public place is a no-brainer. That's why I brought my headphones.
People are a product of their environment. This will perpetuate for generations. To see where the environment first began, just look at history. The history of the black American race is different than most other immigrants. If you take the time to connect the dots, you may begin to understand where the divisions came from. There was slavery, then inequality, then segregation, then marginalization, which led to poverty, which led to lack of resources, which then led to a lack of education. In the end, you have a messed-up, crime-riddled, environment.
Change takes place over the course of many generations. I didn't grow up in a bad environment. So, in the end, I'm the one who brought my headphones.
Any black that thinks they have a right in america to speech loudly is retarded and is being a nigger. Which means person of ignorance. Just keep your mouth shut or at least talk like a normal person not an animal
I live and have grown up in Iowa for my entire life. I wasn't raised a racist and my family actually has had many friends of color. None of these friends were "loud and obnoxious" because they were educated individuals. No, not all blacks are such a thorn. Recently however there was a large low-income section of Chicago destroyed and being right across the river from Illinois many of the urban black group moved here. We have had to DOUBLE the amount of police in the city and raise taxes to pay for THEM to have affordable or free housing. I can not drive down our main street anymore without breaking at least 3 times because there is a group of individuals walking slowly across the middle of a busy street, carrying on and generally being oblivious to their surroundings. Things have changed here and it sickens me. I don't agree that black people are loud... I know, I'll probably get a lot of grief for this comment but... NIGGERS COME IN ALL COLORS. Not all blacks are Niggers, and not all Niggers are black! I know plenty of little white kids that act the same way. This saggy-pants gangsta wannabe bullshit is ruining pop-culture and the general intelligence of all Americans who buy into it.
-Ironically as I was writing this, my redneck neighbors have been carrying on next door hooting and hollering... just reminded me to add that I hate all disrespectful people equally :)
Lived and worked all over country.It's been my experience that,All races ,have problems with the Negro.
Dear anonymous,your last statement was correct.I havent ever met a intelligent black. I lived in S.C. For several,to long years.
Dear anonymous,your last statement was correct.I havent ever met a intelligent black. I lived in S.C. For several,to long years.
As soon as they find out they are annoying someone, pavement apes get even louder. This seems to be one of their primary purposes for existence, i.e., to go out of their way to vex someone. If you protest or complain about it, den it beez raycizzums, muhfuggah.
My god you are so wordy - don't you know simple is precise? Stop talking so much and express yourself.
Part 1(sorry not enough characters allowed.- excuse abbreviations etc) I have been a (white) teacher in the U.S. for the past 19 years. My observations are not of 1 or 2 incidents so don’t even go with that excuse; I know what I have observed & experienced over 19 years in education. I also know the statistics. I have dealt with 1000’s of students and staff over the years. I went to a private college that was predominately white because the state college was full of what other young college students complain about in the postings on this blog. The few black (American) students that went there went for free while my friends & I racked up 10,000’s of dollars in student LOANS. The blk college students definitely took advantage of race while in the classroom. The true Africans from AFRICA were embarrassed by them. The professors allowed them more time for projects and graded them much more leniently than their white counterparts. I was there I saw their projects and I am astute enough to know the difference. And we wonder why whites resent them? Really? The black students would acknowledge this & laugh about the playin’ them (more white guilt). I student taught with one of the blk college studs who was very much unprepared for college much less any idea what to do in his 4th gr studs. The principal was livid but knew he could only coddle the blk student teacher or would have to suffer the wrath of this ghetto thug wannabe teacher (the big laugh among students was the “gold gun” necklace he wore everyday around his neck- no professors EVER said anything to him but at seminars WE were told the proper attire for student teaching). Luckily the parents at the school had a voice & would not tolerate this student teacher’s lack of skill in the field of teaching & he was removed BUT he was placed in another teaching position in the inner city. Hmm I wonder why inner city students have lower scores (YES, I KNOW it’s a combo of things not just their teachers!) But they’re so encouraged to go to college & pushed through no matter what their level of skill . The work force is now forced to accept them at any skill level. Others are held at a higher standard thanks to Affirmative Action. My question has always been is how do a group of people really believe they “made it” on their own when everything is skewed in their favor? I don’t want that but they are very willing to accept it plus bitch about it if they don’t get the treatment they believe they are ENTITLED to beyond all others. As I have taught over so many years it continues to get worse as the years pass. As a teacher in the 90’s I worked for 12 years in a predominately blk school district managed by predominately blk administrators. OMG! what a disorganized mess riddled with the “old boys club” mentality but based on race. I experienced this multiple times being in the outside waiting room of interviews for better positions. I was unfortunately able to hear the shrieks & laughter of blk applicant teachers and administrators in the interviews yelling, “Girl how have you been! What have you been doin’ ?” and on and on. I walked in ,was barely looked at or talked to & never received the welcoming the “black” applicants did. I am now in a position to hire but I don’t care what color you are or if I know you. It’s about whether or not you’re good at what you do- that’s what matters to me. Again, we wonder why urban scores are lower? Why didn’t blk administrators want what’s best for their failing students? For one thing, I witnessed that it’s more about who will have your back when the shit hits the fan in a school district & blk administrators in the north realize that the unions are so strong that white teachers will call them on their B.S. so they don’t want us around. (contd )
Part 2
The funny thing is now in the late 2000’s because of school scores being so important for administrators keeping their jobs; the majority will only hire non-blk teachers & are trying to move out ineffective blk teachers. I have had 2 administrators that showed reverse (blks would call it- I believe it to be good management) by looking at college gpa’s, professional development and references NOT race. Jesus, what a novel concept? Suburban schools have done that since day one and their scores reflect this. When you visit a suburban school procedures& expectations are in place. They are usually well organized machines. And no you probably won’t get a job if you don’t fit their profile which will most likely mean they won’t hire loud mouth, obnoxious, non-compliant teachers no matter what color or ethnicity. Currently I am now in a suburban school with 45% black students from economically disadv. areas. We have an asst principal who is blk & has very poor people skills. She recently applied for another AP position in a predominately affluent white school in this district. Before she even interviewed she assumed she wouldn’t get it because she is blk. She didn’t get the position but she doesn’t even realize it is because of her horrible people skills. It’s easy to blame it on skin color rather than something she could actually improve upon. Whereas, I went into an interview in a dif black school district where I eventually worked, the blk principal at the interview sat behind her desk with the following books stacked up facing toward me: Malcolm X, MLK, Evers, & Farrakhan (What does that say to a white applicant?) and her 5 black “yes women”. She hired me as a teaching assistant because she knew I was at the end of my time in education college & she could use me to her benefit whereas, the other people in my same position were “ghetto” behaving black men and women with only GED’s or high school diplomas. She was embarrassed by the behaviors they exhibited and didn’t tolerate it from the students. I have worked in both urban & suburban schools grades Prek-12. As far as the students, I believe the loudness & rudeness is due to absentee parents. It may be due to time consuming jobs, drugs, alcohol or mental health issues. Whether wht, blk,or orng if a child has been left to figure life out on their own, then what will the outcome be; an attention seeking, loud, obnoxious and rude person. Yes, there are the few who act that way in classrooms because they are spoiled rotten (money or not- any race) but again typically the parents aren’t bothered with the kid & theyre left to their own devices. I believe it just happens to be that the numbers of black students in poverty without fathers in the picture is much higher than other cultures in the U.S. and this is very detrimental to the kids. Any blk student I have ever had that has a positively involved mother and father acts completely different than the kids who don’t- especially the boys.
I'm a black guy but that answers is one of the dumbest I've ever read.
I wish I knew u gurl and yes im African American I was born n Nigeria in I still go bk twice a year, my family owns land in businesses thr but smh u say they are ignorant look how u speak Ur lucky my lady... yall are fuckn rude my advice stop being punk bitches and say something oh rd until then yes ill say it shut the fuck up,,
I live in a black community and when I walk by groups I hear things like "Wafer" "Britain" and other shit that I know they think I don't get. To be honest, it's all just a sad fact of poor education and you'll see it in white trailer parks or anywhere else that the education system fails kids in this country. It's good to learn about presidents and math, but ultimately to succeed you need to learn how to behave in a corporate setting (unless you're going to be a rapper or pro athelete). The community I was raised in prided itself on education and financial stability, and strong families. Some other communities find pride in violence, drug habbits, and criminal activity. If someone was raised to see those things as goals, you'll have a hard time changing their mind. It's okay, I'll keep working hard, being considerate of others and I'll move into a huge home in a gated community and I won't have to hear people who live on wellfare I pay for calling me slurs. Also, even though I look white.. my family imigrated here just 2 generations ago from spain.. so we really had nothing to do with America's history of slavery.
I know that this is an old article but I just need to say something.... 9 out of 10, the vast majority? Most of you that post seem so sure that every single black person you have ever come across falls into the same catagory and it makes me wonder where you all hang out lol the comments that are posted are laughable because you all seem so sure about the other ETHNICITY... we are all one race. Personally I have met a lot of obnoxious people... color made no difference... home training and who a person chooses to affiliate themselves with has more to do with a persons personality than ETHNICITY.... and if you all aren't as lazy as my perception suggests... if you go up in the comments you'll see a post from the actual AUTHOR of the article saying that it was not written to be taken seriously... its a humor peice. I thought it was funny.
I attend my local public library just about everyday, and just about everyday - I hear library patrons talking loudly and listening to EXTREMELY LOUD ear phones inside of what is supposed to be a QUIET computer room. The MAJORITY of the instances involve AFRICA-AMERICAN MALES AND FEMALES. VERY RARELY do such instances involve NON Africa-Americans. When you ask them to quiet down, they get belligerent and ready to FIGHT. This library is located in Oak Park, IL... which is a mostly Caucasian middle class community, with African Americans, Koreans and other races as well.
Well, it all comes down to African-American family structure. It has been bad and it is getting worse. Black single mothers are on the rise because of the culture and how black men behave. They're grown ass people that don't know how to act because the 'white' man keeps them down or because whitey put them in jail because we wrongfully frame them?! Forensics doesn't lie and whoever watches '48 Hours' knows that their own 'brother' tells on them to save their own behind. Go to another country if you don't believe in this justice system. Not all juries are white because juries are not all white all the time. It is about statistics and if you slap racism on these statistics, then you are not helping your race. YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY for the good of your own race. Make a change and adopt a black child and/or stop having sex without some form of birth control. If not, your race WILL be outnumbered by black women at an incredible rate causing even more violence from the black community. It is just common sense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure
This is a highly racist article.
I am shocked to see that Google even allows it to remain online its highly offensive
I've read through most of the comments, and I admit, I do agree with most of the statements. But, some of them are so ignorant. You have to understand that it's not all black people that are loud, just like not all white people are as quiet or as harmless as you say. It's stupid to think a particular individual is 'loud' because of skin colour. These ideas are all formed from the stereotypical ideas or story of a particular race. I'm black and the school I go to is mostly filled with white people, most of them are loud, especially when they're with their friends, or in a big group. But I don't classify white people loud just because of the kind of people I've been surrounded by for nearly my whole life. It's these kind of topics that make people seem ignorant or racist. Yes, sometimes some black people, I'd like to put emphasis on the 'some',are loud, but it's not all of us. Get rid of the idea of black people being loud, all races are loud, it's just which part of the world you come from or who you're with that depends on bringing that out.
I have noticed the same in my community. I live in South Africa where 80percent of the population is black. I have become sooo frustated with their loudness that I googled it, in pursuit of understanding why they are so loud, and came across this website. It is very frustrating. living next to them is a nightmare! I guess they cannot explain it themselves cause they only want to look at it as a fight and once against TALK LOUD/SHOUT and do all things without any etiquette! REALLY ANNOYING.
I'm from South Africa and it's not just Americans Blacks who are obnoxiously loud. Black people are loud here too. I was told it is a cultural thing which is how I ended up on this site because I was looking to verify that. Here they have the excuse of still being very much indoctrinated by a traditional culture. What's your excuse in America? It's just plain obnoxious to shout so loud in public every one can hear your entire conversation. At least here, until I can verify it or not, they have the semi-excuse that whispering attracts bad spirits and loud drives them away.
Yeah I'm not convinced either. It's a cultural thing, but one I hope disappears rapidly as people become more acculturated to living in close proximity and not yelling at each other across the valley.
I have just had to step outside my shop and ask a group of 5 black school kids to tone it down . They are standing a few yards now still shouting at each other and standing in a closed circle .. It is apparently a genetically imprinted primitive instinct to dominate or scare off any threat or opposition . So the research I read on now showed how whites , indians , chinese are more developed on the evolutionary scale compared to blacks .
That was a detailed and thoughtfull reply. You stimulated my mind. I used to work with a black woman that talked loud and tended to be very blunt. I thought she hated me. I didn't understand. Then I beard her talk to her son on the phone in the exact same way and realized her normal communication style was just different then mine. She loves her son. It makes sense because she was raising 3 kids by herself with little help from the father. She had to yell to get the boys attention. Fathers often can get a hilds attention more rapidy because they are physically more intimidating. Also her parents didn't go to college or spend time at the library due to social economic condtions. Keep in mind segregation prevents many blacks from going to movies in the past, so how can they learn if not even able to participate? I dislike the loudness, but only because of my cultural ubringing. I try to put my annoyance in historical perspective. You may have guessed I am white.
Why do black ppl make up 80% of the prisoned population when they're only 10% of the population? I guess that's why they're so loud...no one has caught them yet but they are likely on there way to prison
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